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I wonder what would be a good way to eliminate few million restless males ages 18-35? Let's just say it probably involves a land war with the west. Hopefully o

I wonder what would be a good way to eliminate few million restless males ages 18-35? Let's just say it probably involves a land war with the west. Hopefully our MTV will subvert their plans.

gaius 17y ago
This should be obvious. Look what happens in a culture where the wealthy/powerful are allowed 4 wives, on top of there already being a shortage of females.
- udekaf 17y ago
  good point, I am always curious about how the Musilm solve the problem of male/female inbalance given the fact that one man can marry 4 wives.
  - barry-cotter 17y ago
    In the late Ottoman Empire ~3% of men had more than one wife. Keep in mind that the wife's legal position was better than in most of Europe too. In cultures where the husband is expected to support wives and progeny it gets expensive fast. OTOH there are a lot of places poorer than e.g. Saudi Arabia. In places where the father is further along the continuum to useless sperm donor, like W. Africa promiscuity and the prevalence of multiple concurrent sexual selationships makes it very different.
- tokenadult 17y ago
  Look what happens in a culture where the wealthy/powerful are allowed 4 wives, on top of there already being a shortage of females. What specifically does happen? In the culture I live in, there is aspirational lifelong monogamy as an ideal, and practical serial monogamy as a commonplace lifestyle, but I don't know what happens in a society with a highly skewed ratio of males to females. Especially, I don't know what happens if some men can have four wives and others none at all.
jhancock 17y ago
"land war with the west" How do you suppose they are going to get to the west? swim (to the East)? walk over mountains (to the West)? I have heard this "use the surplus males for war" theory several times. The "too many males part" adds up, but the rest does not. Far more likely, is to use the 32 million man surplus for domestic infrastructure projects, which is what they are already doing.
- gaius 17y ago
  It doesn't work like that tho'. The only reason men want steady jobs is to raise families. It's the genetically-programmed provider instinct. If that is being blocked then men will revert to aggressive competition. We're all mammals.
  - chollida1 17y ago
    > The only reason men want steady jobs is to raise families. You really think that. It didn't occur to you that a man would want a steady job because: - he loves it? - he enjoys the freedom that it provides to participate in hobbies - he loves the time he spends with his coworkers - each day brings something new and exciting? ... I have a steady job and each of these things is one thing I love about it.
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I wonder what would be a good way to eliminate few million restless males ages 18-35? Let's just say it probably involves a land war with the west. Hopefully our MTV will subvert their plans.

gaius 17y ago

This should be obvious. Look what happens in a culture where the wealthy/powerful are allowed 4 wives, on top of there already being a shortage of females.

udekaf 17y ago
good point, I am always curious about how the Musilm solve the problem of male/female inbalance given the fact that one man can marry 4 wives.
- barry-cotter 17y ago
  In the late Ottoman Empire ~3% of men had more than one wife. Keep in mind that the wife's legal position was better than in most of Europe too. In cultures where the husband is expected to support wives and progeny it gets expensive fast. OTOH there are a lot of places poorer than e.g. Saudi Arabia. In places where the father is further along the continuum to useless sperm donor, like W. Africa promiscuity and the prevalence of multiple concurrent sexual selationships makes it very different.
tokenadult 17y ago
Look what happens in a culture where the wealthy/powerful are allowed 4 wives, on top of there already being a shortage of females. What specifically does happen? In the culture I live in, there is aspirational lifelong monogamy as an ideal, and practical serial monogamy as a commonplace lifestyle, but I don't know what happens in a society with a highly skewed ratio of males to females. Especially, I don't know what happens if some men can have four wives and others none at all.

jhancock 17y ago

"land war with the west" How do you suppose they are going to get to the west? swim (to the East)? walk over mountains (to the West)? I have heard this "use the surplus males for war" theory several times. The "too many males part" adds up, but the rest does not. Far more likely, is to use the 32 million man surplus for domestic infrastructure projects, which is what they are already doing.

gaius 17y ago
It doesn't work like that tho'. The only reason men want steady jobs is to raise families. It's the genetically-programmed provider instinct. If that is being blocked then men will revert to aggressive competition. We're all mammals.
- chollida1 17y ago
  > The only reason men want steady jobs is to raise families. You really think that. It didn't occur to you that a man would want a steady job because: - he loves it? - he enjoys the freedom that it provides to participate in hobbies - he loves the time he spends with his coworkers - each day brings something new and exciting? ... I have a steady job and each of these things is one thing I love about it.
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