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This seems correct. Apple's moved the bar to breaking into those phones from having the phone and a 4 digit or no passcode to having: -- the phone -- a 2400 d

by Steko 13y ago

This seems correct. Apple's moved the bar to breaking into those phones from having the phone and a 4 digit or no passcode to having: -- the phone -- a 2400 dpi resolution image of the correct fingerprint -- a 1200 dpi laser printer & transparent paper -- pink latex milk or white woodglue -- a non-trivial amount of time

javajosh 13y ago
That's what I was thinking, too. The fingerprint scanner is a bit like a LoJack - it's still possible to steal a car with a "The Club" on it, but most thieves will probably just move on to another car (although I've heard that car thieves, like pick pockets, don't really steal cars anymore, just components and loose gear.)
- codfrantic 13y ago
  >although I've heard that car thieves, like pick pockets, don't really steal cars anymore, just components and loose gear. I heard that too, airbags, satnav and entertainment systems are the target...
XorNot 13y ago
The problem here is your implying getting past the 4 digit code is substantially easier then cloning a finger print. The code is in someone's head, or you have to deconvolute it from screen smudges. Your fingerprints are literally everywhere you go.
- mmorris 13y ago
  I think it would be pretty easy to get many people's phone password -- just by being in the right place when they unlock it, and watching closely. Most people I know don't cover up their phone at all when they enter it, even in public. So you don't need to get "in someone's head". You just need a good view of them using it. Granted, getting an iTunes Store password by just watching would be a lot harder. But compared to the 4-digit lock screen pw (or even the Android shape pw) TouchID seems a bit more secure, at least to me.
  - XorNot 13y ago
    Conversely you can just change a phone password. Hell you could rotate it daily if you wanted (surprised that's not a feature yet). But you can't change your fingerprints.
    - seqastian 13y ago
      or you could just rotate your fingers/toes/nipples?
- r00fus 13y ago
  Do you think the finger prints you leave everywhere are a substitute for the 2400 dpi photograph? I bet you if CCC wanted to make a much stronger case, they would have taken that image from a fingerprint on a glass - but that didn't work. They photographed the finger and not a stray print for a reason.
sudo_robin 13y ago
and also the fingerprint.
julg 13y ago
-- a lot of luck, because after 5 failed attempts, you must enter your passcode
anonymfus 13y ago
I have 8 digit pass code on my phone.

by Steko 13y ago

javajosh 13y ago

That's what I was thinking, too. The fingerprint scanner is a bit like a LoJack - it's still possible to steal a car with a "The Club" on it, but most thieves will probably just move on to another car (although I've heard that car thieves, like pick pockets, don't really steal cars anymore, just components and loose gear.)

codfrantic 13y ago
>although I've heard that car thieves, like pick pockets, don't really steal cars anymore, just components and loose gear. I heard that too, airbags, satnav and entertainment systems are the target...

XorNot 13y ago

The problem here is your implying getting past the 4 digit code is substantially easier then cloning a finger print. The code is in someone's head, or you have to deconvolute it from screen smudges. Your fingerprints are literally everywhere you go.

mmorris 13y ago
I think it would be pretty easy to get many people's phone password -- just by being in the right place when they unlock it, and watching closely. Most people I know don't cover up their phone at all when they enter it, even in public. So you don't need to get "in someone's head". You just need a good view of them using it. Granted, getting an iTunes Store password by just watching would be a lot harder. But compared to the 4-digit lock screen pw (or even the Android shape pw) TouchID seems a bit more secure, at least to me.
- XorNot 13y ago
  Conversely you can just change a phone password. Hell you could rotate it daily if you wanted (surprised that's not a feature yet). But you can't change your fingerprints.
  - seqastian 13y ago
    or you could just rotate your fingers/toes/nipples?
r00fus 13y ago
Do you think the finger prints you leave everywhere are a substitute for the 2400 dpi photograph? I bet you if CCC wanted to make a much stronger case, they would have taken that image from a fingerprint on a glass - but that didn't work. They photographed the finger and not a stray print for a reason.

sudo_robin 13y ago

and also the fingerprint.

julg 13y ago

-- a lot of luck, because after 5 failed attempts, you must enter your passcode

anonymfus 13y ago

I have 8 digit pass code on my phone.