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Or just someone skilled enough to place fake dna in his body such that the person taking the sample is fooled into taking it from the fake dna. Yes, this reall

by Amadou 13y ago

Or just someone skilled enough to place fake dna in his body such that the person taking the sample is fooled into taking it from the fake dna. Yes, this really happened - at least once that we know of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schneeberger

frakkingcylons 13y ago
In Schneeberger's case, it seems that he was simply infusing a part of his body with another man's blood and then making sure that the lab tech drawing the blood sample drew it from the same place. Once they tested his hair and saliva, they had a positive match.
sillysaurus2 13y ago
Wow! During his 1999 trial, Schneeberger revealed the method he used to foil the DNA tests. He implanted a 15 cm Penrose drain filled with another man's blood and anticoagulants in his arm. During tests, he tricked the laboratory technician into taking the blood sample from the place the tube was planted.
coldtea 13y ago
Or someone just being careful with his DNA at the crime he commits, that then places someone else's DNA that he wants to frame?
- pavel_lishin 13y ago
  That would work in the sort of Hollywood movie where the government has everyone's DNA on file. Then again, I guess we've seen that you literally cannot be too paranoid.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >That would work in the sort of Hollywood movie where the government has everyone's DNA on file. You don't have to have "everyone's DNA on file". It's actually pretty trivial even for your neighbor or whoever to get your DNA. As for the police falsifying evidence, there's a wikipedia-long history of cases, in Europe, Latin America, Asia, etc. Especially in politically charged times, like the sixties and seventies. Heck, something like half of Italy's government in the 70's have been proved in later Italian courts to be involved in such things.
    - pavel_lishin 13y ago
      > You don't have to have "everyone's DNA on file". It's actually pretty trivial even for your neighbor or whoever to get your DNA. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I can dump a gallon of your blood and semen onto a dead guy in an alley, but how would the government trace that blood and semen back to you?
      - CaveTech 13y ago
        They don't have to necessarily trace it back to me, as long as they can't trace it back to you.
      - coldtea 13y ago
        A, sure. Well, as the culprit, you can always arrange some things or leave other stuff that also points to me. Also, your main benefit is that the police will more easily believe that it wasn't you (since your DNA won't match).
clarky07 13y ago
How in the world did he get off with only 4 years in prison after "repeatedly" raping multiple people?

by Amadou 13y ago

frakkingcylons 13y ago

In Schneeberger's case, it seems that he was simply infusing a part of his body with another man's blood and then making sure that the lab tech drawing the blood sample drew it from the same place. Once they tested his hair and saliva, they had a positive match.

sillysaurus2 13y ago

Wow! During his 1999 trial, Schneeberger revealed the method he used to foil the DNA tests. He implanted a 15 cm Penrose drain filled with another man's blood and anticoagulants in his arm. During tests, he tricked the laboratory technician into taking the blood sample from the place the tube was planted.

coldtea 13y ago

Or someone just being careful with his DNA at the crime he commits, that then places someone else's DNA that he wants to frame?

pavel_lishin 13y ago
That would work in the sort of Hollywood movie where the government has everyone's DNA on file. Then again, I guess we've seen that you literally cannot be too paranoid.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >That would work in the sort of Hollywood movie where the government has everyone's DNA on file. You don't have to have "everyone's DNA on file". It's actually pretty trivial even for your neighbor or whoever to get your DNA. As for the police falsifying evidence, there's a wikipedia-long history of cases, in Europe, Latin America, Asia, etc. Especially in politically charged times, like the sixties and seventies. Heck, something like half of Italy's government in the 70's have been proved in later Italian courts to be involved in such things.
  - pavel_lishin 13y ago
    > You don't have to have "everyone's DNA on file". It's actually pretty trivial even for your neighbor or whoever to get your DNA. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I can dump a gallon of your blood and semen onto a dead guy in an alley, but how would the government trace that blood and semen back to you?
    - CaveTech 13y ago
      They don't have to necessarily trace it back to me, as long as they can't trace it back to you.
    - coldtea 13y ago
      A, sure. Well, as the culprit, you can always arrange some things or leave other stuff that also points to me. Also, your main benefit is that the police will more easily believe that it wasn't you (since your DNA won't match).

clarky07 13y ago

How in the world did he get off with only 4 years in prison after "repeatedly" raping multiple people?