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LinkedIn is the primary reason I'm cautious to link my different services to something external (facebook, twitter, etc.). Even those I'm a bit more lax on comp

LinkedIn is the primary reason I'm cautious to link my different services to something external (facebook, twitter, etc.). Even those I'm a bit more lax on compared to my email. Nothing, but me and my devices, should ever have a reason to access my email. If someone or something is trying to access my email, even with explicit permission, there's no way they can be up to anything good. The activities that originate from LinkedIn touching your email account is definitely sketchy at best, and definitely spam. There doesn't seem to be a good way to stop unwanted emails going to a single address. Hell, I've found that even getting them to stop sending you emails regarding your account / groups you joined doesn't always work. Speaking to their support department ends in a response with something like "our engineers are aware" with no change in behavior. Half of me wants to just get rid of LinkedIn, the other half of me likes seeing old acquaintances getting promotions/moving on to greener pastures. === Dear LinkedIn, Please stop being scummy...we'd all appreciate it. Cheers! -Everyone from the Internet

bostik 13y ago
> LinkedIn is the primary reason I'm cautious to link my different services to something external I've gone further. I routinely create email aliases for any new services I may need to use. (Yes, I have one dedicated to HN too.) That gives me quite a few nice features: 1) My email addresses are not generally cross-service 2) It's somewhat harder to consolidate my data even when the addresses are "leaked" (read: sold) from one service to another 3) I see with absolute clarity which service my email address was siphoned from. 4) I can trivially delete the address. It's just a line in /etc/aliases. For #3, I haven't done any accurate measurements but it seems that an address finds its way to spammer lists about as often through the service selling it as it does from a user of that service inadvertantly placing it on one.
- AhtiK 13y ago
  GMail has a little trick that you can postfix anything to your email address username separated with a "+". For example my.name+linkedin@gmail.com. Later this +postfix makes it easier to find out which source is the leak. Most of the websites let you sign up with "+" in your e-mail but unfortunately not every site. The other trick is that GMail ignores "." in email user so my.name can be just as well "myname". Not that it helps with the spam, just a sidenote.
  - dangoldin 13y ago
    Problem is that it's trivial for these services to collapse the emails into a single one for merging purposes. I doubt many do though..
  - bostik 13y ago
    Yep, the '+' as a separator is one of the many Postfix features. However, the problem with using the "account+identifier" is that the identifier is simply ignored when delivering mail. With a real alias I can actually revoke an email address, by simply removing it from the aliases. With an identifier I would have to explicitly reject mails for a given recipient part. I prefer to keep things simple. Bouncing spam is a bonus.
    - Groxx 13y ago
      Explicitly reject / add a 'move to spam folder' filter, but yeah. And some places I've given +names have sent to my un-suffixed address (I mostly suspect bad email sanitizing / filtering due to Hanlon's Razor, but ya never know).
    - malandrew 13y ago
      Check out gam [0] gam create alias idontwearseatbelts user crashtestdummy The only problem with aliases is that it completely breaks using email as a unique id to link you with people. You basically fix spam but lose the "people you may know" feature on social sites where you actually care about knowing who you may know on it (i.e. not linkedin). [0] https://code.google.com/p/google-apps-manager/wiki/GettingStarted#Step_5:_More_simple_GAM_commands https://code.google.com/p/google-apps-manager/wiki/GettingSt...

bostik 13y ago

> LinkedIn is the primary reason I'm cautious to link my different services to something external I've gone further. I routinely create email aliases for any new services I may need to use. (Yes, I have one dedicated to HN too.) That gives me quite a few nice features: 1) My email addresses are not generally cross-service 2) It's somewhat harder to consolidate my data even when the addresses are "leaked" (read: sold) from one service to another 3) I see with absolute clarity which service my email address was siphoned from. 4) I can trivially delete the address. It's just a line in /etc/aliases. For #3, I haven't done any accurate measurements but it seems that an address finds its way to spammer lists about as often through the service selling it as it does from a user of that service inadvertantly placing it on one.

AhtiK 13y ago
GMail has a little trick that you can postfix anything to your email address username separated with a "+". For example my.name+linkedin@gmail.com. Later this +postfix makes it easier to find out which source is the leak. Most of the websites let you sign up with "+" in your e-mail but unfortunately not every site. The other trick is that GMail ignores "." in email user so my.name can be just as well "myname". Not that it helps with the spam, just a sidenote.
- dangoldin 13y ago
  Problem is that it's trivial for these services to collapse the emails into a single one for merging purposes. I doubt many do though..
- bostik 13y ago
  Yep, the '+' as a separator is one of the many Postfix features. However, the problem with using the "account+identifier" is that the identifier is simply ignored when delivering mail. With a real alias I can actually revoke an email address, by simply removing it from the aliases. With an identifier I would have to explicitly reject mails for a given recipient part. I prefer to keep things simple. Bouncing spam is a bonus.
  - Groxx 13y ago
    Explicitly reject / add a 'move to spam folder' filter, but yeah. And some places I've given +names have sent to my un-suffixed address (I mostly suspect bad email sanitizing / filtering due to Hanlon's Razor, but ya never know).
  - malandrew 13y ago
    Check out gam [0] gam create alias idontwearseatbelts user crashtestdummy The only problem with aliases is that it completely breaks using email as a unique id to link you with people. You basically fix spam but lose the "people you may know" feature on social sites where you actually care about knowing who you may know on it (i.e. not linkedin). [0] https://code.google.com/p/google-apps-manager/wiki/GettingStarted#Step_5:_More_simple_GAM_commands https://code.google.com/p/google-apps-manager/wiki/GettingSt...