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Humans are either fully part of the natural process, or everything we do interferes with it. There's a very real choice about how we want to change the environ

• rmrfrmrf 13y ago
  > Humans are either fully part of the natural process, or everything we do interferes with it. Thank you for describing what I was trying to say much more elegantly. :)
• sliverstorm 13y ago
  In literal terms, humans are "natural" actors. When we have an effect on nature, it is a "natural" process. I don't disagree with that. But just because what we do is "natural", doesn't mean it is "good". "Good" and "natural" are not the same. As for the line between human actors vs. non-human actors... when it comes to players in the ecosystem, humans are simply overpowered. That is the root of the problem. Nature has struck a balance in most places, and the ecosystem shifts slowly because everything is close to balance. This gives the other players in the system time to react. Humans are very, very good at destroying balance, so we often warrant special consideration. Think about your history. The only other actors that brought about the destruction of habitats, ecosystems, and species in as short a time and as great of numbers as humans are natural disasters.