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And this is the typical reason I cannot take Apple anymore. I've paid for numerous RogueAmoeba software licenses over the years and they are top notch. Apple de

And this is the typical reason I cannot take Apple anymore. I've paid for numerous RogueAmoeba software licenses over the years and they are top notch. Apple decided, screw that we'll do it how we want it - because, you know, streaming audio in your house you should be doing it exactly how we told you too. F you Apple. Nobody has cracked the open streaming audio nut, trivial as it may be. And the rest are left with junk, proprietary crap like this.

parasubvert 13y ago
You might want to consider that there were licensing reasons behind this move. Consider that AppleTV 6.0 now allows "AirPlay via iCloud", which means you can stream tracks you own on someone else's AppleTV where you haven't registered your iTunes account. Such a change might be one of the reasons for FairPlay encryption. This might be a temporary issue where they open it up if enough people complain.
- imaginator 13y ago
  I can understand licensing issues. But since Airplay only runs on the local network segment, this shouldn't be an issue.
- windexh8er 13y ago
  This has nothing to do with the local streaming issue. Playing via AirPlay is a different delivery mechanism and is tied to the hardware. No impact to Apple since RA doesn't participate in this mode of operation.
coldtea 13y ago
>And this is the typical reason I cannot take Apple anymore. I've paid for numerous RogueAmoeba software licenses over the years and they are top notch. Well, RogueAmoeba wares was always a bunch of semi-legal stuff, utilizing kernel hacks, private APIs and such.
- bkeating 13y ago
  meh. It's your computer. We really should be allowed to use it however we wish, if whatever it is you're doing is fostering innovation or solving problems. Maybe it should be looked at on a per-app basis. or company. Apple should have relationships with these very talented software shops. They should of course not support anything that would cause harm. In my wildest dreams, right?
- windexh8er 13y ago
  semi-legal stuff Ummmmm, I'm going to call BS on that. If What RA was doing was illegal Apple would have shut it down ASAP - especially if it was with regard to using some undocumented features of the core OS that Apple wanted to protect. We're talking about streaming audio here - locally on your network (yes, there is the possibility of routing this across networks but if you're going through that much trouble you can implement a homegrown system much more reliably). I find it interesting people go to bat for Apple when Apple screws over devs that makes a great product - and obviously are fans of Apple, and no, nothing RA was selling was illegal, that's just unfounded FUD. I've asked RA repeatedly to just build an interoperable product that has it's own streaming components that runs this way on Linux. At the time they said they had no plans - I really hope Apple pushes these guys over the edge to build products that can bridge the OS gap. Apple won't ever do anything along those lines.

parasubvert 13y ago

You might want to consider that there were licensing reasons behind this move. Consider that AppleTV 6.0 now allows "AirPlay via iCloud", which means you can stream tracks you own on someone else's AppleTV where you haven't registered your iTunes account. Such a change might be one of the reasons for FairPlay encryption. This might be a temporary issue where they open it up if enough people complain.

imaginator 13y ago
I can understand licensing issues. But since Airplay only runs on the local network segment, this shouldn't be an issue.
windexh8er 13y ago
This has nothing to do with the local streaming issue. Playing via AirPlay is a different delivery mechanism and is tied to the hardware. No impact to Apple since RA doesn't participate in this mode of operation.

coldtea 13y ago

>And this is the typical reason I cannot take Apple anymore. I've paid for numerous RogueAmoeba software licenses over the years and they are top notch. Well, RogueAmoeba wares was always a bunch of semi-legal stuff, utilizing kernel hacks, private APIs and such.

bkeating 13y ago
meh. It's your computer. We really should be allowed to use it however we wish, if whatever it is you're doing is fostering innovation or solving problems. Maybe it should be looked at on a per-app basis. or company. Apple should have relationships with these very talented software shops. They should of course not support anything that would cause harm. In my wildest dreams, right?
windexh8er 13y ago
semi-legal stuff Ummmmm, I'm going to call BS on that. If What RA was doing was illegal Apple would have shut it down ASAP - especially if it was with regard to using some undocumented features of the core OS that Apple wanted to protect. We're talking about streaming audio here - locally on your network (yes, there is the possibility of routing this across networks but if you're going through that much trouble you can implement a homegrown system much more reliably). I find it interesting people go to bat for Apple when Apple screws over devs that makes a great product - and obviously are fans of Apple, and no, nothing RA was selling was illegal, that's just unfounded FUD. I've asked RA repeatedly to just build an interoperable product that has it's own streaming components that runs this way on Linux. At the time they said they had no plans - I really hope Apple pushes these guys over the edge to build products that can bridge the OS gap. Apple won't ever do anything along those lines.