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In a balanced society, the needs of businesses do not outweigh the needs of citizens.
by foobarbazqux 13y ago
In a balanced society, the needs of businesses do not outweigh the needs of citizens.
- a3n 13y agoI agree! Where is that?
- foobarbazqux 13y agoExcellent question.
- andrewflnr 13y agoBusinesses are run by citizens, who have a right to choose which other citizens they're interested in serving.
- capisce 13y agoA problem is when those big businesses prevent other smaller businesses from catering to the niche markets, through lobbying or other anti-competitive means.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThen combat the lobbying or other anti-competitive antics. The last time we tried to force business to operate in the wrong market, we told banks to lower their lending criteria and look where that got us.
- brownbat 13y ago> we told banks to lower their lending criteria and look where that got us There's definitely a mix of opinions out there on this, but there have been some good challenges against community lending targets as a significant cause of the crisis. Somewhat more polemical: 1. http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/22/5086/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/22/5086/ 2. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/no-the-affordable-housing-push-didnt-cause-the-subprime-crisis/2012/03/29/gIQADZ4YjS_blog.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/no-the-aff... Wikipedia can sometimes provide a pretty good record on controversial topics with sufficient visibility. The current article on causes of the US housing bubble, and specifically the section covering loan policy, cites useful literature on both sides. While it's not a completely one-sided argument, it appears the weight of the evidence goes against the CRA and similar government initiatives as a leading cause of the crisis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_United_States_housing_bubble#Mandated_loans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_United_States_hou... At the very least, given the number of other sections on that page, you should conclude that the CRA wasn't the sole cause of the crisis. Note from the same page, (and in some of the above polemics), it seems like there's a similar cry to blame deregulation for the crisis. There are reputable economists, even Bill Clinton claiming that the repeal of Glass-Steagall probably wasn't sufficient to cause the crisis. Regulation and deregulation make suggestively convenient bogeymen for the right and left respectively, so they should draw a sort of heightened scrutiny. Events like this are naturally complex. Alarm bells should ring if anyone boils down the entire crisis to something so simplistic as "too much or too little government." Some problems and some solutions don't fit conveniently on a postcard.
- andrewflnr 13y agoAgreed. That's where you start heading into things that should be illegal in a free market.
- foobarbazqux 13y agoOf course, but some businesses like banks are also run by the government.
- rattray 13y agoBusinesses serve at the pleasure of their shareholders, and are under obligation to maximize shareholder value. They do not exist to serve whichever customers they feel most affinity towards. Shareholders aren't always even citizens (can be foreign, can be other businesses).
- eriksank 13y agoWhat if other citizens are prevented from running such business too? Mt Gox almost got shut down because they are competing with the God-given monopoly rights of the banking cartel. The banks do not like to serve the poor but they are also very efficient at getting anybody shutt down who does. Seriously, they are now trying to shut down the entire bitcoin industry, not because it abets drug dealers, but because it would give alternatives to the poor.
- corporalagumbo 13y agoI think national governments are not going to feel like rushing to the aid of virtual currencies - from my understanding they have the potential to eradicate tax bases.