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I don't think that shoe has dropped yet. As far as domestic surveillance goes, NSA seems to be approaching the level in terms of capabilities of Chinese MSS. In

I don't think that shoe has dropped yet. As far as domestic surveillance goes, NSA seems to be approaching the level in terms of capabilities of Chinese MSS. In terms of foreign surveillance, although we can safely assume NSA has access to more fiber and hence internet traffic, there seems little reason to think their hacking activities are any more prevalent than any other large intelligence agency. Those capabilities are, after all, rather cheap. What we haven't learned of, at least yet, is rampant industrial espionage by NSA to steal R&D and a pipeline for dealing with the stolen results. China, at least according to US allegations, has precisely that.

VladRussian2 13y ago
>What we haven't learned of, at least yet, is rampant industrial espionage by NSA to steal R&D and a pipeline for dealing with the stolen results. i wouldn't mind if NSA was doing something really useful like that instead of building total surveilance and instilling fears of it into its own citizenry
tanzam75 13y ago
> What we haven't learned of, at least yet, is rampant industrial espionage by NSA to steal R&D and a pipeline for dealing with the stolen results. China, at least according to US allegations, has precisely that. China would still be late to that game. France and Israel were famous for doing government-sponsored industrial espionage in the 1980s-1990s. Again, according to US allegations.