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Not all US ghost towns are are dramatically smaller. There seem to be many with peak population in the (low) tens of thousands. - http://usatoday30.usatoday.co

by r0h1n 13y ago

Not all US ghost towns are are dramatically smaller. There seem to be many with peak population in the (low) tens of thousands. - http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-01-townhangingon_N.htm http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-01-townha... - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/american-ghost-towns-21st-century-070000805.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/american-ghost-towns-21st-cent... And while I agree with you that they weren't unoccupied to begin with, unlike the case with many of China's ghost cities, I beg to disagree on the rest of your argument - namely that the US model was appropriate for its time (we have decades of hindsight) and that the Chinese model isn't appropriate for the present (we don't know). Many experts have been prophesying a crash for China's investment driven economy for years now, and a dramatic correction in real estate prices. Yet, after a small correction prices are still rising - http://www.economist.com/news/china/21577118-soaring-house-prices-continue-pose-political-problem-chinas-leaders-cat-and-house http://www.economist.com/news/china/21577118-soaring-house-p... We may only know a decade or two later whether a few dozen ghost cities was a small price China paid for continuing to power ahead economically.

jebblue 13y ago
>> namely that the US model was appropriate for its time There was no model other than freedom. Freedom to invent, create, build, farm all as we saw fit. This is completely different and perhaps antithetical to what the Chinese are doing now. Their government is trying to will the result of prosperity into existence rather than allow it to culminate on its own as it does in a truly free society.
- r0h1n 13y ago
  Without defending the Chinese model (which for the record I despise), let us also not forget that "freedom" is relative and defined from the POV of the winners/majority. In the case of the "building" of America, so to speak, were there not people who did not quite enjoy the same freedom you speak of? In fact millions would have forfeited their freedom so the rest could "invent, create, build and farm as they saw fit".
  - jebblue 13y ago
    America isn't a perfect country but it's the best one I know of.
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      Ehhhh, lets not get crazy. I'm a US citizen and have lived in the US all my life, and I could name a handful of countries much better, based on GDP, happiness, or the accessibility of affordable housing and healthcare. The US is nice, but perfect it ain't.
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by r0h1n 13y ago

jebblue 13y ago

>> namely that the US model was appropriate for its time There was no model other than freedom. Freedom to invent, create, build, farm all as we saw fit. This is completely different and perhaps antithetical to what the Chinese are doing now. Their government is trying to will the result of prosperity into existence rather than allow it to culminate on its own as it does in a truly free society.

r0h1n 13y ago
Without defending the Chinese model (which for the record I despise), let us also not forget that "freedom" is relative and defined from the POV of the winners/majority. In the case of the "building" of America, so to speak, were there not people who did not quite enjoy the same freedom you speak of? In fact millions would have forfeited their freedom so the rest could "invent, create, build and farm as they saw fit".
- jebblue 13y ago
  America isn't a perfect country but it's the best one I know of.
  - toomuchtodo 13y ago
    Ehhhh, lets not get crazy. I'm a US citizen and have lived in the US all my life, and I could name a handful of countries much better, based on GDP, happiness, or the accessibility of affordable housing and healthcare. The US is nice, but perfect it ain't.
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