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On the other hand, I have rolled my eyes at people like Gruber who went on and on about how the iPad is totes for creation and not just consumption, and how sty
by kmfrk 13y ago
On the other hand, I have rolled my eyes at people like Gruber who went on and on about how the iPad is totes for creation and not just consumption, and how styli are stupid - after spending time with my iPad and trying to draw and "touch write" in apps myself.
Apple makes great devices, and I wouldn't use any other phone and tablet, but I think people like Gruber have been completely blind to the technological shortcomings of iOS devices in this area, because Steve Jobs told them styli are stupid, and the iPad is going to disrupt this-and-that.
It also brings up the whole "to stylus or not to stylus" discussion again, because one of the main reasons you wouldn't want to use a stylus for an iPad is that it highlights just how (comparatively) poor the touch latency is for the tasks that lend themselves to work with styli.
It perhaps best underscores that iPads are very much - still - disruptive technology, which by definition is in many ways inferior than sustaining technologies, but makes up for it in other compelling ways.
It's one of the many reminders that we shouldn't get too busy throwing out everything paper and analogue. Disruption is not synonymous with obviation.
- hayksaakian 13y agoWhat about "stylus when you need it" a-la galaxy note?
- kmfrk 13y agoI love styli; I own several for my iPad. I'm just saying that Apple have a good reason to discourage people from using styli with their iPad, for reasons other than the new finger-based touch paradigm. (As it exposes inherent shortcomings.) I don't fault Apple and Jobs for that, though; I am just bothered by Gruber's rather naïve praise and uncompromising defence of the iPad as a device for creation over consumption, an argument I think he more than Apple and anyone else champions.
- dreamfactory 13y agoI'll second that the ipad is a great creation device but just not for proper stylus based creation - some paint styles, most drawing, and any handwriting. But it is good for more common creative applications - a lot of photo apps, music, keyboard-based writing. If Apple also made a stylus-based product I'd get it in a heartbeat (because ironically it's weakest as a paper notebook replacement for meetings and sketching ideas), but if I had to choose between those types of creative applications, there's more mileage in the ipad.
- jkubicek 13y agoI think you misunderstand the point that he is trying to make. Gruber's "iPad isn't for creation" jokes are purely a rebuttal to all the naysayers that repeated, ad nauseum, that iPads are only for consumption. iPads may not be the best drawing/production/editing/writing devices out there, but it's clear that people are using iPads for professional level work. I don't get the sense that Gruber thinks the current incarnations of the iPad are even particularly good for much beyond gaming and reading.
- mortenjorck 13y agoThe iPad is eminently mediocre for any principally visual task such as sketching or painting. The touchscreen, while highly responsive, simply lacks the resolution (even with a stylus) to do detailed work without a massive zoom ratio. For things that don't require visual precision, such as music production or writing or concept diagramming, the iPad is highly capable. I look forward to the day its touchscreen can handle pen input to an equal degree.
- demallien 13y agoWow, you had better explain that to my brother - he just finished illustrating a children's book with beautiful water-colour style images - all done on an iPad. But maybe I imagined that...
- vidarh 13y agoPeople do great things with mediocre tools all the time, so that does not tell us anything about the quality of the iPad as a tool for this type of drawing.
- demallien 13y agoThey do. When they don't have access to better tools for one reason or another. This is not my brother's case though - he simply found the iPad to be a superior solution to the problem.
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