>"...their strengths (security, gov & enterprise sales), they might be doing pretty-well today." Yeah, while pretty much everyone witnessed and understands the

>"...their strengths (security, gov & enterprise sales), they might be doing pretty-well today." Yeah, while pretty much everyone witnessed and understands the failure of RIM to respond to the iPhone and hardware/OS missteps it might not be so well known that they were failing to properly service their existing strengths at the same time. In my experience, lots of Enterprise/Government folks really didn't and likely still don't care about touchscreens and apps (for their employees), just email/PIN. Problem was, the sometimes painful software/support plus lengthy, too frequent SRP outages ensured that BES and the Blackberries connected to them would be abandoned at the first opportunity.