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Or maybe it just isn't better? Or maybe it isn't better enough for people to endure the complete lack of platform ecosystem. Ecosystem is everything. Android o

Or maybe it just isn't better? Or maybe it isn't better enough for people to endure the complete lack of platform ecosystem. Ecosystem is everything. Android overcame that (remember when few of the top tier apps or services like Netflix were available on Android?) largely via the pull of Google services, getting enough inertia that the apps came. Blackberry...it wasn't and isn't going to happen. It just isn't worth it for makers. Blackberry can't just make a device that is as good as the competitors, it has to be significantly better. They didn't do that.

skylan_q 13y ago
I didn't say it is better. I said it doesn't matter if it's leaps and bounds better. Everyone hates them worse than The Devil and there's nothing that can be done about it regardless of ecosystem and devices. People just aren't willing to even peek, nevermind even giving it a shot.
zmmmmm 13y ago
Android started succeeding before it had an ecosystem. Establishing a viable app ecosystem actually took a long time. The problem for RIM, Nokia, Microsoft and others is simple really: they fail to align their business interests with all the other stakeholders in the market. Explosive growth like Android's comes when you get a sudden synergy of different stakeholders whose interests all align. It's not one thing. * Customers want more choice in phone (bigger screens, different styles, lower cost, etc.) * Carriers need an answer to the iPhone. Something where they retain some tiny piece of control * OEMs desperately need an answer to the iPhone * Developers want something more open, with more control and less barriers * Media distributors want some other channel than Apple / iTunes Basically, Android was a win-win-win-win for Google, carriers, developers, OEMs and customers, and it came at just the right time when all these needs were urgent. The common theme you see in all these other players is that they are not open, offer less choice, and they are trying to force others to cede control (license our software, no you can't have the source, no you can't customize it, etc).

skylan_q 13y ago

I didn't say it is better. I said it doesn't matter if it's leaps and bounds better. Everyone hates them worse than The Devil and there's nothing that can be done about it regardless of ecosystem and devices. People just aren't willing to even peek, nevermind even giving it a shot.

zmmmmm 13y ago

Android started succeeding before it had an ecosystem. Establishing a viable app ecosystem actually took a long time. The problem for RIM, Nokia, Microsoft and others is simple really: they fail to align their business interests with all the other stakeholders in the market. Explosive growth like Android's comes when you get a sudden synergy of different stakeholders whose interests all align. It's not one thing. * Customers want more choice in phone (bigger screens, different styles, lower cost, etc.) * Carriers need an answer to the iPhone. Something where they retain some tiny piece of control * OEMs desperately need an answer to the iPhone * Developers want something more open, with more control and less barriers * Media distributors want some other channel than Apple / iTunes Basically, Android was a win-win-win-win for Google, carriers, developers, OEMs and customers, and it came at just the right time when all these needs were urgent. The common theme you see in all these other players is that they are not open, offer less choice, and they are trying to force others to cede control (license our software, no you can't have the source, no you can't customize it, etc).