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Also disappointed about the lack of ASP . MVC.net - but so it goes, I would hope it wasn't being intentionally ignored out of some personal bias. Either way, t

Also disappointed about the lack of ASP . MVC.net - but so it goes, I would hope it wasn't being intentionally ignored out of some personal bias. Either way, the site is still a pretty nice resource even if it fails to recognize some stacks.

BigChiefSmokem 13y ago
This is not the first time I've noticed this omittance on HN posts. Even though ASP.NET is one of the biggest web development frameworks on the planet, used by many, many companies, a lot of these so called web developers pretend like it doesn't even exist. Have they even used C# I wonder? The Microsoft grudge runs deep in Silicon Valley.
- simonswords82 13y ago
  Came here to ask the same question. We built www.staffsquared.com with .Net, I think it's on par with anything I've seen created with "trendy" languages.
  - _random_ 13y ago
    It looks good, HTML source is pretty clean as well.
    - mattyod 13y ago
      Did you look inside #habla_beta_container_do_not_rely_on_div_classes_or_names ?
      - adamdavis 13y ago
        Seems like that's markup generated by a third party tool their site uses for chat.
        mattyod 13y ago
        and some pretty sweet markup it is indeed.
- adamdavis 13y ago
  I've noticed this as well. It's unfortunate, I think, that I still run into a lot of people who carry unfounded negative opinions on c# web development simply because of their personal bias against Microsoft. But c'est la vie, this is a common problem in the realm of programming, champion <your language here> disregard <set of all other languages>.
  - mattyod 13y ago
    I can assure you all my prejudice towards c# web development comes from experience.
    - adamdavis 13y ago
      Excellent. I can assure you that I wasn't including you in the set of people whose prejudice doesn't come from experience.
- valokafor 13y ago
  Great post, thanks for the effort. But I definitely second BigChief on this, please include ASP.Net MVC and for completeness ASP.Net Web Forms. Thanks
seldo 13y ago
How popular is ASP as a stack? I'm looking at http://langpop.corger.nl/ http://langpop.corger.nl/ http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... http://langpop.com/ http://langpop.com/ https://sites.google.com/site/pydatalog/pypl/PyPL-PopularitY-of-Programming-Language https://sites.google.com/site/pydatalog/pypl/PyPL-PopularitY... And ASP doesn't make the list, presumably because it is a framework rather than a language per se -- both C# and Visual Basic make the list, but that's not really a good indicator. I don't really know anything about the Microsoft stack, and I don't know anybody who does. To clarify: I'm not denying ASP is popular, I'm just asking if you know of a good metric to gauge its relative popularity. Apparently Github wouldn't be a good indicator either?
- adamdavis 13y ago
  Correct, ASP wouldn't make (it onto) those lists in the same way I don't see Rails / Django on those lists, just their parent languages, python and ruby. On the site referenced in this HN submission (bentobox) frameworks and not just their parent languages are represented. To answer the question posed, I wouldn't know where to begin to provide a good metric for gauging it's (ASP / MVC.net) or any other frameworks / languages popularity.
  - vinceguidry 13y ago
    Rails and Django are both on there.
    - adamdavis 13y ago
      I think you misunderstand me. Rails nor Django are on any of the lists contained in the comment to which I replied to. I explicitly acknowledged their existence in the site that this thread is about. edit: The point of mentioning that frameworks weren't included in any of those lists was in response to the parent reply questioning the popularity of the (ASP) framework as he /she didn't see it in any of those lists of language popularity that they cited.

BigChiefSmokem 13y ago

This is not the first time I've noticed this omittance on HN posts. Even though ASP.NET is one of the biggest web development frameworks on the planet, used by many, many companies, a lot of these so called web developers pretend like it doesn't even exist. Have they even used C# I wonder? The Microsoft grudge runs deep in Silicon Valley.

simonswords82 13y ago
Came here to ask the same question. We built www.staffsquared.com with .Net, I think it's on par with anything I've seen created with "trendy" languages.
- _random_ 13y ago
  It looks good, HTML source is pretty clean as well.
  - mattyod 13y ago
    Did you look inside #habla_beta_container_do_not_rely_on_div_classes_or_names ?
    - adamdavis 13y ago
      Seems like that's markup generated by a third party tool their site uses for chat.
      - mattyod 13y ago
        and some pretty sweet markup it is indeed.
adamdavis 13y ago
I've noticed this as well. It's unfortunate, I think, that I still run into a lot of people who carry unfounded negative opinions on c# web development simply because of their personal bias against Microsoft. But c'est la vie, this is a common problem in the realm of programming, champion <your language here> disregard <set of all other languages>.
- mattyod 13y ago
  I can assure you all my prejudice towards c# web development comes from experience.
  - adamdavis 13y ago
    Excellent. I can assure you that I wasn't including you in the set of people whose prejudice doesn't come from experience.
valokafor 13y ago
Great post, thanks for the effort. But I definitely second BigChief on this, please include ASP.Net MVC and for completeness ASP.Net Web Forms. Thanks

seldo 13y ago

How popular is ASP as a stack? I'm looking at http://langpop.corger.nl/ http://langpop.corger.nl/ http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.... http://langpop.com/ http://langpop.com/ https://sites.google.com/site/pydatalog/pypl/PyPL-PopularitY-of-Programming-Language https://sites.google.com/site/pydatalog/pypl/PyPL-PopularitY... And ASP doesn't make the list, presumably because it is a framework rather than a language per se -- both C# and Visual Basic make the list, but that's not really a good indicator. I don't really know anything about the Microsoft stack, and I don't know anybody who does. To clarify: I'm not denying ASP is popular, I'm just asking if you know of a good metric to gauge its relative popularity. Apparently Github wouldn't be a good indicator either?

adamdavis 13y ago
Correct, ASP wouldn't make (it onto) those lists in the same way I don't see Rails / Django on those lists, just their parent languages, python and ruby. On the site referenced in this HN submission (bentobox) frameworks and not just their parent languages are represented. To answer the question posed, I wouldn't know where to begin to provide a good metric for gauging it's (ASP / MVC.net) or any other frameworks / languages popularity.
- vinceguidry 13y ago
  Rails and Django are both on there.
  - adamdavis 13y ago
    I think you misunderstand me. Rails nor Django are on any of the lists contained in the comment to which I replied to. I explicitly acknowledged their existence in the site that this thread is about. edit: The point of mentioning that frameworks weren't included in any of those lists was in response to the parent reply questioning the popularity of the (ASP) framework as he /she didn't see it in any of those lists of language popularity that they cited.