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Please get them away from the internet, defending them will do literally nothing. Bullying in schools is awful because children have absolutely no recourse. The

Please get them away from the internet, defending them will do literally nothing. Bullying in schools is awful because children have absolutely no recourse. They can't get away, they are forced in day after day. They have no tools to mediate conflict. Bullying on the internet is trivial, you arn't trapped, you arn't forced into these situations. You can hide if you want to. You don't have to reveal who you are. You can walk away. You can be anonymous. You should be anonymous anyway. This article is about someone who suck his neck waaaay out, and got his head bashed in for it. Don't do that.

user24 13y ago
> Bullying on the internet is trivial, you arn't trapped, you arn't forced into these situations. You can hide if you want to. Yeah, just stop going online, it's so simple! I know almost your entire social life is online, and the identities we create online are increasingly hard-linked to our real life identities, but all you have to do is exclude yourself from everything that you enjoy doing online and you'll be fine!
- TheLegace 13y ago
  I never really understood why people needed identities on the Internet. I never had one, I mean I didn't have too many friends and wasn't very popular. I cannot say for sure how cyber-bullying affects people, well because maybe I just missed the era where elementary/highschool kids really engaged on the net. I think I have spent more time on the Internet that anyone in a square mile, maybe more. But I opened a facebook account and I don't even have a profile picture. I never really found it interesting, because people are super boring.
- GhotiFish 13y ago
  Now you know exactly why hard-linking your life online is such a horrifying thing to do. You expose yourself to humanity. Bottom 0.1% included. There's lots to do online that doesn't require a hard link to real life, and everything that does require a hard link should be looked at with the most rigorous of scrutiny and suspicion.
  - user24 13y ago
    tell that to a 14 year old when all her friends are on example.com, the hip new place that just needs your real name to log in.
0xbadcafebee 13y ago
> This article is about someone who suck his neck waaaay out, and got his head bashed in for it. Don't do that. No. No no no no no no no. You're saying what happened to him was justified, or that it should be expected. This is wrong. Nobody should have to change their life to avoid being abused. Instead, we as human beings should stop the abuse. Here are some examples of your position put in other situations: Don't dress like a slut and you won't get raped. Don't be out and gay and you won't get gay-bashed. Don't look weird and people won't treat you like shit. The article is about a man who sat on a bench with a typewriter. He didn't "stick his neck out". He did not invite people to abuse him, whatever you think. What you are doing is a textbook example of victim blaming. And i'm not angry with you; I just want you to know this position is exactly the mentality that perpetuates abuse. Try to blame less and be more supportive, because the only way we can stop abuse is to speak out against it and show we won't tolerate it.
- GhotiFish 13y ago
  Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes. Instead, we as human beings should stop the abuse. you can't be serious. Tell me, how do you intend to elevate the bottom 0.1% of humanity? If you pretend like it doesn't exist, you will get burned. If you didn't know and you got burned, then you have my sympathies, but there is nothing that can be done.
  - 0xbadcafebee 13y ago
    What you are advocating is the continued abuse of victims because they should have known better. Your defense of this is that you can't do anything to prevent bullies or abusers. Here's why that's wrong. 1. 'there is nothing that can be done' There's lots of things that can be done; they're just not things you care about, or things you want to help with. That doesn't mean things can't be done. We can educate people on why bullies exist, how to identify them, and how to stop them. We can show in the real world the effect of bullying, and the effect of stopping it. They do this now in small programs for some schools, but it needs to be expanded. We can also lead by example. As adults (well, some of us are adults anyway) we can show bullies and victimizers that what they do is not acceptable, and we can hold them accountable for their words and actions. Not only can we address them specifically, and treat each other with respect, 45 states have laws on cyber bullying. If common human decency doesn't work, we can report them to law enforcement. 2. 'the bottom 0.1% of humanity' Bullying exists in all walks of life in different ways. And i'm not talking elevating, i'm talking educating, and protecting other people. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect vulnerable people. Why would you advocate that people should be hurt? Whether they 'pretend it doesnt exist' or not, it's still wrong, and because there's something wrong going on, we need to work to make it right, not just throw up our hands and say "oh well thats what happens when youre a hipster" !!!

user24 13y ago

> Bullying on the internet is trivial, you arn't trapped, you arn't forced into these situations. You can hide if you want to. Yeah, just stop going online, it's so simple! I know almost your entire social life is online, and the identities we create online are increasingly hard-linked to our real life identities, but all you have to do is exclude yourself from everything that you enjoy doing online and you'll be fine!

TheLegace 13y ago
I never really understood why people needed identities on the Internet. I never had one, I mean I didn't have too many friends and wasn't very popular. I cannot say for sure how cyber-bullying affects people, well because maybe I just missed the era where elementary/highschool kids really engaged on the net. I think I have spent more time on the Internet that anyone in a square mile, maybe more. But I opened a facebook account and I don't even have a profile picture. I never really found it interesting, because people are super boring.
GhotiFish 13y ago
Now you know exactly why hard-linking your life online is such a horrifying thing to do. You expose yourself to humanity. Bottom 0.1% included. There's lots to do online that doesn't require a hard link to real life, and everything that does require a hard link should be looked at with the most rigorous of scrutiny and suspicion.
- user24 13y ago
  tell that to a 14 year old when all her friends are on example.com, the hip new place that just needs your real name to log in.

0xbadcafebee 13y ago

> This article is about someone who suck his neck waaaay out, and got his head bashed in for it. Don't do that. No. No no no no no no no. You're saying what happened to him was justified, or that it should be expected. This is wrong. Nobody should have to change their life to avoid being abused. Instead, we as human beings should stop the abuse. Here are some examples of your position put in other situations: Don't dress like a slut and you won't get raped. Don't be out and gay and you won't get gay-bashed. Don't look weird and people won't treat you like shit. The article is about a man who sat on a bench with a typewriter. He didn't "stick his neck out". He did not invite people to abuse him, whatever you think. What you are doing is a textbook example of victim blaming. And i'm not angry with you; I just want you to know this position is exactly the mentality that perpetuates abuse. Try to blame less and be more supportive, because the only way we can stop abuse is to speak out against it and show we won't tolerate it.

GhotiFish 13y ago
Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes. Instead, we as human beings should stop the abuse. you can't be serious. Tell me, how do you intend to elevate the bottom 0.1% of humanity? If you pretend like it doesn't exist, you will get burned. If you didn't know and you got burned, then you have my sympathies, but there is nothing that can be done.
- 0xbadcafebee 13y ago
  What you are advocating is the continued abuse of victims because they should have known better. Your defense of this is that you can't do anything to prevent bullies or abusers. Here's why that's wrong. 1. 'there is nothing that can be done' There's lots of things that can be done; they're just not things you care about, or things you want to help with. That doesn't mean things can't be done. We can educate people on why bullies exist, how to identify them, and how to stop them. We can show in the real world the effect of bullying, and the effect of stopping it. They do this now in small programs for some schools, but it needs to be expanded. We can also lead by example. As adults (well, some of us are adults anyway) we can show bullies and victimizers that what they do is not acceptable, and we can hold them accountable for their words and actions. Not only can we address them specifically, and treat each other with respect, 45 states have laws on cyber bullying. If common human decency doesn't work, we can report them to law enforcement. 2. 'the bottom 0.1% of humanity' Bullying exists in all walks of life in different ways. And i'm not talking elevating, i'm talking educating, and protecting other people. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect vulnerable people. Why would you advocate that people should be hurt? Whether they 'pretend it doesnt exist' or not, it's still wrong, and because there's something wrong going on, we need to work to make it right, not just throw up our hands and say "oh well thats what happens when youre a hipster" !!!