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It is amazing to me how much press the NSA spying is getting and how little press the CFPB spying is getting. Read up on the CFPB- they are capturing detailed r

by nsaguy 13y ago

It is amazing to me how much press the NSA spying is getting and how little press the CFPB spying is getting. Read up on the CFPB- they are capturing detailed records on 80% of all credit card transactions for instance.

twistedpair 13y ago
Especially give the total US media blackout of SOPA. If it was in the media's commercial interest to keep the NSA under wraps, you'd never have heard of Snowden.
RWeaver 13y ago
Credit cards are privately owned though. You don't -have- to use them and if you stop the surveillance stops, so it's a choice. With government surveillance you have no choice, not even by moving overseas.
- jlgaddis 13y ago
  You don't have to use cellphones or the Internet either.
  - Gnewt 13y ago
    I don't really think that's a valid argument any more.
woodhull 13y ago
Can you post a citation here? Googling, all I can find are references to a database of consumer complaints that people have proactively made to the agency about Credit Card companies being abusive. That work seems like good digital government at it's best to me -- helping aggregate and track down fraudulent and abusive companies before they hurt more people through voluntarily submitted complaints from consumers. That db is here: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaintdatabase/ http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaintdatabase/ They even have a REST API and visualizations.
- woodhull 13y ago
  Found a reference, in this WSJ editorial: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578593591276402574.html?mod=rss_opinion_main http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732382300457859... and Daily Caller piece: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/consumer-financial-protection-bureau-compared-to-nsa/ http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/consumer-financial-protect... To be fair the CFPB claims the data is anonymized, even though there are account level rows in the datasets they are pulling in from the credit card companies they regulate.

by nsaguy 13y ago

twistedpair 13y ago

Especially give the total US media blackout of SOPA. If it was in the media's commercial interest to keep the NSA under wraps, you'd never have heard of Snowden.

RWeaver 13y ago

Credit cards are privately owned though. You don't -have- to use them and if you stop the surveillance stops, so it's a choice. With government surveillance you have no choice, not even by moving overseas.

jlgaddis 13y ago
You don't have to use cellphones or the Internet either.
- Gnewt 13y ago
  I don't really think that's a valid argument any more.

woodhull 13y ago

Can you post a citation here? Googling, all I can find are references to a database of consumer complaints that people have proactively made to the agency about Credit Card companies being abusive. That work seems like good digital government at it's best to me -- helping aggregate and track down fraudulent and abusive companies before they hurt more people through voluntarily submitted complaints from consumers. That db is here: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaintdatabase/ http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaintdatabase/ They even have a REST API and visualizations.

woodhull 13y ago
Found a reference, in this WSJ editorial: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578593591276402574.html?mod=rss_opinion_main http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732382300457859... and Daily Caller piece: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/consumer-financial-protection-bureau-compared-to-nsa/ http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/consumer-financial-protect... To be fair the CFPB claims the data is anonymized, even though there are account level rows in the datasets they are pulling in from the credit card companies they regulate.