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I wish for the same features you describe, both as a creator and backer. That said, they have a very specific vision for their company and business, and have d

I wish for the same features you describe, both as a creator and backer. That said, they have a very specific vision for their company and business, and have decided not to follow the money when it points them away from that vision. Hats off to them for that.

robomartin 13y ago
I wish they would clearly state their vision. If they don't want me as a backer or project creator that's fine. I simply don't understand making things so unnecessarily difficult in this day and age. From the outside it looks like they just don't care. Unlike you I don't respect this position. If they want to be about art but happen to be making their money with tech, then have the balls to focus on art and make 5% of the money they are making now (or less). That would be sticking to their vision. Instead they make money on tech and promote art, even to those who have zero interest in the segment. That's not sticking to your vision. That's hypocrisy.
tilsammans 13y ago
That might be true, but their UX remains broken even for people who do support their vision. I have backed plenty of quirky, art, or dance projects and I love backing those people even for no reward. Kickstarter have all the data in my profile. It would be quite possible for them to point me at non-commercial, small-scale artists but they just don't do that. Instead the thing most close to something useful is the Popular feed from the various categories. But it takes a lot of clicking and is not very useful anyway. There are a lot of projects I would have loved to back that reached the end date without me knowing. Kickstarter are leaving money on the table, not just for them, but for the artists they host as well and that's a pity.
- robomartin 13y ago
  > Kickstarter are leaving money on the table, not just for them, but for the artists they host as well and that's a pity. That's exactly my point. I have been working on a tech project that is currently slated to go on KS. I find myself wondering if a site like indiegogo might be a better idea. KS does not help with discovery. I don't have a huge network. I woild prefer a service that actively informs it's userbase of relevant projects based on their profile. This would have a multiplicative effect on gathering supporters. I, too, have experienced coming upon a KS project of great interest to me only to learn time had run out. Multiply this by thousands of people and you have a situation that is far less than ideal for project originators and backers alike.

robomartin 13y ago

I wish they would clearly state their vision. If they don't want me as a backer or project creator that's fine. I simply don't understand making things so unnecessarily difficult in this day and age. From the outside it looks like they just don't care. Unlike you I don't respect this position. If they want to be about art but happen to be making their money with tech, then have the balls to focus on art and make 5% of the money they are making now (or less). That would be sticking to their vision. Instead they make money on tech and promote art, even to those who have zero interest in the segment. That's not sticking to your vision. That's hypocrisy.

tilsammans 13y ago

That might be true, but their UX remains broken even for people who do support their vision. I have backed plenty of quirky, art, or dance projects and I love backing those people even for no reward. Kickstarter have all the data in my profile. It would be quite possible for them to point me at non-commercial, small-scale artists but they just don't do that. Instead the thing most close to something useful is the Popular feed from the various categories. But it takes a lot of clicking and is not very useful anyway. There are a lot of projects I would have loved to back that reached the end date without me knowing. Kickstarter are leaving money on the table, not just for them, but for the artists they host as well and that's a pity.

robomartin 13y ago
> Kickstarter are leaving money on the table, not just for them, but for the artists they host as well and that's a pity. That's exactly my point. I have been working on a tech project that is currently slated to go on KS. I find myself wondering if a site like indiegogo might be a better idea. KS does not help with discovery. I don't have a huge network. I woild prefer a service that actively informs it's userbase of relevant projects based on their profile. This would have a multiplicative effect on gathering supporters. I, too, have experienced coming upon a KS project of great interest to me only to learn time had run out. Multiply this by thousands of people and you have a situation that is far less than ideal for project originators and backers alike.