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> It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live. Which brings us back to: Piracy is a market

> It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live. Which brings us back to: Piracy is a market failure, not a cultural failure.

kybernetyk 13y ago
Theft is a market failure, not a cultural failure.
- RyanMcGreal 13y ago
  Repeat after me: piracy is not theft.
  - jessaustin 13y ago
    To be precise, "piracy" isn't even piracy. After all, it's not murder, kidnapping, and plunder on the high seas.
    - RyanMcGreal 13y ago
      Thank you - you're quite right. I should have written, "copying isn't theft".
    - twerquie 13y ago
      It shouldn't be a surprise to you that words can have more than one meaning.
      - Shorel 13y ago
        This one is by design. 'Piracy' was defined as copyright violation by the copyright holders, not by general usage. Therefore, we should fight that usage, just to compensate the balance.
        twerquie 13y ago
        I follow but disagree. The world's largest and most successful torrent site calls itself The Pirate Bay. There are political "Pirate Parties" in Canada and Sweden. It may have been a pejorative label initially, but file sharers have "owned" the name and made it their own. That's exactly how language is defined; by popular usage, not by design.
- jessaustin 13y ago
  Unfortunately your attempted reductio ad absurdum doesn't quite get to the absurdum point.
- randomdata 13y ago
  That is probably true. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that theft happens, by and large, due to poor access to drugs. If the drug market was more efficient, it is possible a lot of those theft crimes would go away. Of course, theft and copyright infringement are not directly comparable, being quite different concepts.
fmax30 13y ago
Well if you think about it , the markets here could easily import the games ( they do import the PS3 games ) but they choose not to import PC games because they know it will be cracked in time. So basically it was in fact cultural failure which lead to market failure .

> It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live. Which brings us back to: Piracy is a market failure, not a cultural failure.

kybernetyk 13y ago

Theft is a market failure, not a cultural failure.

RyanMcGreal 13y ago
Repeat after me: piracy is not theft.
- jessaustin 13y ago
  To be precise, "piracy" isn't even piracy. After all, it's not murder, kidnapping, and plunder on the high seas.
  - RyanMcGreal 13y ago
    Thank you - you're quite right. I should have written, "copying isn't theft".
  - twerquie 13y ago
    It shouldn't be a surprise to you that words can have more than one meaning.
    - Shorel 13y ago
      This one is by design. 'Piracy' was defined as copyright violation by the copyright holders, not by general usage. Therefore, we should fight that usage, just to compensate the balance.
      - twerquie 13y ago
        I follow but disagree. The world's largest and most successful torrent site calls itself The Pirate Bay. There are political "Pirate Parties" in Canada and Sweden. It may have been a pejorative label initially, but file sharers have "owned" the name and made it their own. That's exactly how language is defined; by popular usage, not by design.
jessaustin 13y ago
Unfortunately your attempted reductio ad absurdum doesn't quite get to the absurdum point.
randomdata 13y ago
That is probably true. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that theft happens, by and large, due to poor access to drugs. If the drug market was more efficient, it is possible a lot of those theft crimes would go away. Of course, theft and copyright infringement are not directly comparable, being quite different concepts.

fmax30 13y ago

Well if you think about it , the markets here could easily import the games ( they do import the PS3 games ) but they choose not to import PC games because they know it will be cracked in time. So basically it was in fact cultural failure which lead to market failure .