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News flash , AAA companies don't like to do PC releases because of all the piracy. Hell Let me be honest , every GTA games i had played till San Andreas on the

by fmax30 13y ago

News flash , AAA companies don't like to do PC releases because of all the piracy. Hell Let me be honest , every GTA games i had played till San Andreas on the PC was a cracked version. It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live.

RyanMcGreal 13y ago
> It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live. Which brings us back to: Piracy is a market failure, not a cultural failure.
- kybernetyk 13y ago
  Theft is a market failure, not a cultural failure.
  - RyanMcGreal 13y ago
    Repeat after me: piracy is not theft.
    - jessaustin 13y ago
      To be precise, "piracy" isn't even piracy. After all, it's not murder, kidnapping, and plunder on the high seas.
      - RyanMcGreal 13y ago
        Thank you - you're quite right. I should have written, "copying isn't theft".
      - twerquie 13y ago
        It shouldn't be a surprise to you that words can have more than one meaning.
        Shorel 13y ago
        This one is by design. 'Piracy' was defined as copyright violation by the copyright holders, not by general usage. Therefore, we should fight that usage, just to compensate the balance.
        twerquie 13y ago
        I follow but disagree. The world's largest and most successful torrent site calls itself The Pirate Bay. There are political "Pirate Parties" in Canada and Sweden. It may have been a pejorative label initially, but file sharers have "owned" the name and made it their own. That's exactly how language is defined; by popular usage, not by design.
  - jessaustin 13y ago
    Unfortunately your attempted reductio ad absurdum doesn't quite get to the absurdum point.
  - randomdata 13y ago
    That is probably true. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that theft happens, by and large, due to poor access to drugs. If the drug market was more efficient, it is possible a lot of those theft crimes would go away. Of course, theft and copyright infringement are not directly comparable, being quite different concepts.
- fmax30 13y ago
  Well if you think about it , the markets here could easily import the games ( they do import the PS3 games ) but they choose not to import PC games because they know it will be cracked in time. So basically it was in fact cultural failure which lead to market failure .
talmand 13y ago
I'm failing to understand your point. Almost every version of GTA has been released on the PC. How was there no option where you lived? Are you meaning you couldn't purchase it at your local stores before mail-order was available?
DigitalSea 13y ago
You do realise this argument is null and void? GTA V for XBOX 360 leaked onto torrent websites days before the game was even officially released. If this is the argument companies are using for delaying the release of PC games or not releasing them at all, I think that's weak. Look at Watch Dogs. Another open world hacker-esque game and it's coming out on consoles and PC on the same date. Rockstar are a much bigger company with more resources and bigger budgets to develop for multi-platforms. They are a console oriented company, but I remember when GTA was much bigger on PC than any console back in the 1,2 and 3 days especially. Well, put it this way. If there are plans for next gen, we'll definitely get a PC person as they are effectively the same in many ways.

by fmax30 13y ago

RyanMcGreal 13y ago

> It wasn't that i wanted to get a crack , but the thing was that there was no other option available where i live. Which brings us back to: Piracy is a market failure, not a cultural failure.

kybernetyk 13y ago
Theft is a market failure, not a cultural failure.
- RyanMcGreal 13y ago
  Repeat after me: piracy is not theft.
  - jessaustin 13y ago
    To be precise, "piracy" isn't even piracy. After all, it's not murder, kidnapping, and plunder on the high seas.
    - RyanMcGreal 13y ago
      Thank you - you're quite right. I should have written, "copying isn't theft".
    - twerquie 13y ago
      It shouldn't be a surprise to you that words can have more than one meaning.
      - Shorel 13y ago
        This one is by design. 'Piracy' was defined as copyright violation by the copyright holders, not by general usage. Therefore, we should fight that usage, just to compensate the balance.
        twerquie 13y ago
        I follow but disagree. The world's largest and most successful torrent site calls itself The Pirate Bay. There are political "Pirate Parties" in Canada and Sweden. It may have been a pejorative label initially, but file sharers have "owned" the name and made it their own. That's exactly how language is defined; by popular usage, not by design.
- jessaustin 13y ago
  Unfortunately your attempted reductio ad absurdum doesn't quite get to the absurdum point.
- randomdata 13y ago
  That is probably true. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that theft happens, by and large, due to poor access to drugs. If the drug market was more efficient, it is possible a lot of those theft crimes would go away. Of course, theft and copyright infringement are not directly comparable, being quite different concepts.
fmax30 13y ago
Well if you think about it , the markets here could easily import the games ( they do import the PS3 games ) but they choose not to import PC games because they know it will be cracked in time. So basically it was in fact cultural failure which lead to market failure .

talmand 13y ago

I'm failing to understand your point. Almost every version of GTA has been released on the PC. How was there no option where you lived? Are you meaning you couldn't purchase it at your local stores before mail-order was available?

DigitalSea 13y ago

You do realise this argument is null and void? GTA V for XBOX 360 leaked onto torrent websites days before the game was even officially released. If this is the argument companies are using for delaying the release of PC games or not releasing them at all, I think that's weak. Look at Watch Dogs. Another open world hacker-esque game and it's coming out on consoles and PC on the same date. Rockstar are a much bigger company with more resources and bigger budgets to develop for multi-platforms. They are a console oriented company, but I remember when GTA was much bigger on PC than any console back in the 1,2 and 3 days especially. Well, put it this way. If there are plans for next gen, we'll definitely get a PC person as they are effectively the same in many ways.