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I'm really intrigued why whatsapp is more annoying than facebook? There is no system of adverts or selling data to it, since they actually charge for usage. I

I'm really intrigued why whatsapp is more annoying than facebook? There is no system of adverts or selling data to it, since they actually charge for usage. I paid after 1 year free about 6 months ago. I have pretty much every real life friend I care about on there, individually and numerous private groups. We regularly share photos, text, video, locations, etc. privately (as far as we are aware). To me it perfectly fits the box of exactly what a social network should be. It just works... This is why i'm so intrigued why you dislike it?

majani 13y ago
The need to appear intellectual by disliking popular things is strong in this forum.
- darklajid 13y ago
  Really? That's what you think if someone disagrees? Is your comment another version of the same 'trend' you see, trying to appear intellectual by assuming that other people just 'hate' for no reason?
Apocryphon 13y ago
Doesn't whatsapp have infamously bad security, despite its popularity? http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/ http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/ http://samgranger.com/whatsapp-is-using-imei-numbers-as-passwords/ http://samgranger.com/whatsapp-is-using-imei-numbers-as-pass...
- christoph 13y ago
  That certainly used to be the case. I believe they now actually perform proper authentication - i.e. send an SMS with unique code to the handset, which gets automatically read and then authorizes the device. Their security did used to be horrendous though, e.g. everything sent over all networks/http in plain text. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.
darklajid 13y ago
What I dislike, ordered from 'insane' to 'bad': - Notifications for 'last active' / 'seen': Really? In what _world_ would that be a good idea? FB does the same crap, but I don't have any FB app and there's no global 'Yeah, that dude just looked at totally different things, but really: He's active and _should_ have answered you'. - Not open. I don't trust them a bit. FB messages are XMPP and FB is "You're stupid to share things here anyway" by default. Whatsapp .. has no benefit, all the downsides. - Free for a year, pay after everyone uses it. Bait and switch. On top of that: For me a social network is something entirely different. Whatsapp is a message application. It's Trillian or whatever, nothing of value. You can do the same thing via XMPP or Mail or .. any transport you like. It feels like someone is rebranding something boring, old, uninteresting, adds tiny crappy features (and a UI I cannot stand) on top and .. asks for money. (No offense intended. I wouldn't want to take that thing from any user, even if I could. I just hate being 'invited', because it's not even remotely interesting for me. And I'm sorry that this 'wins', while open solutions are equal or superior..)

majani 13y ago

The need to appear intellectual by disliking popular things is strong in this forum.

darklajid 13y ago
Really? That's what you think if someone disagrees? Is your comment another version of the same 'trend' you see, trying to appear intellectual by assuming that other people just 'hate' for no reason?

Apocryphon 13y ago

Doesn't whatsapp have infamously bad security, despite its popularity? http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/ http://fileperms.org/whatsapp-is-broken-really-broken/ http://samgranger.com/whatsapp-is-using-imei-numbers-as-passwords/ http://samgranger.com/whatsapp-is-using-imei-numbers-as-pass...

christoph 13y ago
That certainly used to be the case. I believe they now actually perform proper authentication - i.e. send an SMS with unique code to the handset, which gets automatically read and then authorizes the device. Their security did used to be horrendous though, e.g. everything sent over all networks/http in plain text. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

darklajid 13y ago

What I dislike, ordered from 'insane' to 'bad': - Notifications for 'last active' / 'seen': Really? In what _world_ would that be a good idea? FB does the same crap, but I don't have any FB app and there's no global 'Yeah, that dude just looked at totally different things, but really: He's active and _should_ have answered you'. - Not open. I don't trust them a bit. FB messages are XMPP and FB is "You're stupid to share things here anyway" by default. Whatsapp .. has no benefit, all the downsides. - Free for a year, pay after everyone uses it. Bait and switch. On top of that: For me a social network is something entirely different. Whatsapp is a message application. It's Trillian or whatever, nothing of value. You can do the same thing via XMPP or Mail or .. any transport you like. It feels like someone is rebranding something boring, old, uninteresting, adds tiny crappy features (and a UI I cannot stand) on top and .. asks for money. (No offense intended. I wouldn't want to take that thing from any user, even if I could. I just hate being 'invited', because it's not even remotely interesting for me. And I'm sorry that this 'wins', while open solutions are equal or superior..)