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IE11 Release Preview for Windows 7: 30% Faster than Other Browsers
- yuhong 13y agoSo what about Server 2012 R1?
- wavesounds 13y agoIt's great all these companies are competing to make their JS engines faster and faster with each new release. Its creating exciting possibilities for the web! I do wish there was a bit more aggressive a push to get older users to update their browsers as well though.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThere has been a big push. As best I can tell, there isn't much more aggressive they can get, aside from ignoring the user and literally forcing computers with old browsers to update.
- ChrisAntaki 13y agoThey could develop IE9+ for XP.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThat would just make the problem worse. XP is EoL, and propping it up only makes it harder when the day comes. The problem is not that XP can't run IE11. The problem is people are still running XP.
- ChrisAntaki 13y agoYou share Microsoft's opinion.
- sliverstorm 13y agoI share the opinion of anybody who's already had to support a product for twice its intended lifetime
- alecsmart1 13y agoYes, IE6/7/8 really need to go. I don't know why they can't force update everyone similar to Chrome.
- PeterisP 13y agoA bunch of old megacorp in-house webapps would break if the IE would move from 6 to 7+.
- dragontamer 13y agoBecause a number of users (IIRC, South Koreans especially) rely on the incompatibility of IE6 to view a number of their websites. (Something about certain ActiveX controls being government mandated) Force upgrading people from these older versions will break a significant fraction of the web, at least for some users. It might even be a legal issue in South Korea.
- sp332 13y agoActiveX still works in IE11 though.
- ChrisAntaki 13y agoMicrosoft hasn't developed IE9+ for Windows XP. This might be to differentiate their newer OS'es.
- kristiandupont 13y agoI don't use Firefox anymore, but I feel that this is more or less because of them and for that I am eternally thankful. As for the lack of updating, I really don't think you can blame Microsoft for that. The problem lies with corporations.
- hayksaakian 13y agoWhen you don't support standards or commonly accepted conventions of modern browsers, and build a browser optimized for one operating system you SHOULD end up with a faster browser. However, given the aforementioned limitation why would you want to use such a browser? ----- for ie10 see http://html5test.com/compare/browser/ie10.html http://html5test.com/compare/browser/ie10.html ie10 scores 320 vs firefox 22's 410 i'm downloading the ie11 preview to compare firsthand now "You'll need to restart your PC before you can use your new browser" -- thanks IE ie11 scores 350 on html5test (compared to firefox 22's 410 and ie 10's 320)
- dubfan 13y agoHave you developed for IE10 or 11? They are far more standards compliant than any other version. In fact IE11 surpasses Firefox in some areas (full support for Flexbox for example)
- cykod 13y ago"... they are far more standards complaint than any other version ..." "standards complaint" - Nice, I think that nails it. Lately Microsoft complains all the time that they are fully standards compliant, but when it comes down to it, I always end up having to special case IE so it never really feels that way.
- xradionut 13y agoThey are NSA standards compliant.
- masklinn 13y ago> They are far more standards compliant than any other version. Of IE? Considering the other versions, that's not exactly a high bar to set.
- drhowarddrfine 13y agoYou can cherry pick all kinds of things and be better than Firefox but, overall where it matters, IE11 brings up the rear.
- orf 13y agoThe new development tools look really nice, I must say. The dev tools in previous releases have been shocking.
- joshstrange 13y agoTell me about it, even in 10 I find the dev tools extremely lacking and slow.
- johnohara 13y agoI was hoping for 31%. Are you certain it's not 29?
- hayksaakian 13y agothey have only 1 significant figure of accuracy
- lucb1e 13y agoLet's just hope it's not an order of magnitude wrong, then.
- xutopia 13y agoI never trust code that Microsoft writes to make up statistics about how awesome their technology is. How well does it handle real world examples rather than some contrite example of theirs?
- bsullivan01 13y agoIt would have been worst for them to pay a lab for the test. Now that it is out, we shall see and test. MS threw the first punch with the claims FF user and very happy here.
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- electrichead 13y agoI tried to install it on Windows 8 on my desktop (not 8.1) and was informed that it is only for Windows 7 SP1. I could help but roll my eyes.
- acqq 13y agoYes, they want to force you to install Windows 8.1. I'd also prefer to have just the IE 11, at least until Windows 8.1 SP1 thank you Microsoft. They are really strange: if I had Windows 7 I'd be able to install IE 11, but since I have Windows 8, I'll have to wait until October 18 and then I'll have to install the whole Windows 8.1.
- twodayslate 13y agoThe only reason I have not been able to switch to IE is browser extensions. Does IE have that yet? I said the same thing about Chrome when it first came out. I happily use it now.
- lucb1e 13y agoI'm sure this will gather lots of downvotes, but it really does sound a lot like this to me: IE is faster than the rest. -- Microsoft If you're about to publish such numbers, at least have an external party publish it, paid or otherwise. 30% faster loading would be astounding, especially on connections with high ping times and more than 1 percent of packet loss (3 percent is really noticeable and yet common in lots of places, especially public ones). But of course they didn't mean 30 overall improvement, just the Javascript got 30 percent faster if you use certain things, right? Let's click that link. ... > IE11 Release Preview is 9% faster than IE10 Alright so there goes the "30% faster than other browsers". Unless you don't count IE10 as a browser. Also IE10 is way slower in all sorts of benchmarks compared to other browsers. To take just one recent benchmark: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/chrome-27-firefox-21-opera-next,3534-12.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/chrome-27-firefox-21-ope... Here IE10 is 257% slower than the fastest browser 379pts vs 974pts). If IE11 is 9% faster, then how is it "30% faster than other browsers"? A 9% improvement is still 248% slower than Firefox, at least in Tom's Hardware's benchmark. Or is "other browsers" not "all other browsers?" Perhaps that is their reasoning: "we meant only Opera, Maxthon and $other_unknown_browser as 'other browsers'."
- anonymfus 13y agoYou linked to article where results in Sunspider were excluded because of too efficient dead code elimination optimization in IE. See page "Javascript and DOM performance".
- untog 13y agoAlright so there goes the "30% faster than other browsers". Unless you don't count IE10 as a browser. I'm going to nit-pick, just because you did. The issue isn't counting IE10 as a browser, it's counting it as an "other" browser. Which arguably it is not.
- iamshs 13y agoAstounding amount of cribbing, when they do explain the 30% advantage here: "On Windows 7, IE11 Release Preview is 9% faster than IE10, which is a 5% improvement from the IE11 Developer Preview, and over 30% faster than the nearest competitive browser." And that nearest competitive browser is FireFox 23, because IE10 is still an IE family browser. Yeah let's ask a third party to run simple sunspider tests.
- malkia 13y agoWhat's up with "Reimagining the Net" - I don't want a browser to mess up with my image of the .net :) - do I?
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- amenod 13y agoThe main problem with IE has never been its speed. I hope it dies a long agonizing death for all the hours I have wasted when developing two versions of each page - one for all the other browsers and one for IE. Its market share finally reached a point where I don't care about it... Good riddance!
- ck2 13y agoHas to be tightly bound to hardware acceleration, no?
- JungleGymSam 13y agoIt's disappointing that so many tech videos (in my experience) pay such little attention to the audio (bitrate and/or volume). My volume had to be at 100% to hear this comfortably. Another example are published webcasts wherein the presenter is using their telephone (on speakerphone!) to give the presentation. That is just ridiculous. If you do presentations don't use a system that doesn't allow you to use a microphone (and don't forget to buy and use the microphone).
- brianbarker 13y agoHaha, IE11 won't install on Windows 8. It requires Win7 only it says...
- vxNsr 13y agoWell the sad thing is the pirate test barely runs in IE10 and actually renders things wrong.