> your desire to hurt people who do bad things > ...feel good about inflicting suffering > ...your desire for revenge Again, you attack me personally, this is

> your desire to hurt people who do bad things > ...feel good about inflicting suffering > ...your desire for revenge Again, you attack me personally, this is not a good look for you. I wish harm on nobody; I long for a utopian day of mutual respect. > You might also want to throw into the mix the observation that a very large number of people in prison have untreated mental / behavioral issues I have already directly raised this point. You are changing the frame. > [will] you [...] accept a 70% rate of re-offending, or would you trade your desire for revenge for a 15% rate of re-offending? That is the question you really need to answer. I will boldly answer your question, though you have answered none of mine. Yes, I will accept a higher rate of re-offending. Ethics are not convenient, and are often not utilitarian. I would not kill one person to save ten, nor even a thousand. If holding an individual to account for their actions has a high cost, then so be it. "Truly ethical behavior is acting according to principles even when those principles are inconvenient."