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Please stop linking nytimes.com. I understand it's simple to subvert the paywall, but they shouldn't be encouraged regardless.

by maxk42 13y ago

smacktoward 13y ago
Seriously? Believe it or not, outside the VC bubble, businesses need to make money to survive. (I know, right? Shocking!) Without revenue, there won't be a New York Times anymore. The paywall seems to be helping with that (see: http://allthingsd.com/20120806/the-new-york-times-reports-a-digital-success-story/ http://allthingsd.com/20120806/the-new-york-times-reports-a-..., http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2012-12-20-the-new-york-times-paywall-is-working-better-than-anyone-had-guessed/ http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2012-12-20-the-new-york-ti...), and it's low enough that it's never seriously inconvenienced me as a non-subscriber. (Though it has prompted me a few times to think about becoming a subscriber, which is a feature, not a bug.) So what's the beef?
- astrodust 13y ago
  The beef is posts to paywall sites need to be tagged somehow.
- PhasmaFelis 13y ago
  The whole point of a news aggregator is to make it easy to find and consume content. It's bad form to link to content that a large chunk of their audience can't easily read, and by "easily" I mean "click the link". I get that the NYT has some worthwhile content that doesn't exist elsewhere, but paywalled links on HN should be clearly marked at the very least.
- rocky1138 13y ago
  Interestingly enough, whenever I go to nytimes I don't see a paywall. And I'm not a customer, either. ? Hmm.
  - PhasmaFelis 13y ago
    You get a small number of free articles per month, tracked by cookie, before they start paywalling you. A regular HN reader can hit that cap pretty fast.
ajiang 13y ago
Maybe linking to Google's I'm Feeling Lucky with the NYT title as the search term will work http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I'm+Feeling+Lucky&q=let%20the%20poor%20have%20fun%20nyt http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I'm+Feeling+Lucky&q=let%20...
kanamekun 13y ago
So many posts on HN encourage startups to charge their customers and not to fall into the trap of offering everything for free... When it comes to content, I think we should be encouraging companies to find ways to fund high quality content. That's what the NYT has done with their metered pay wall, and it feels like this is something that should be encouraged. Otherwise they will become yet another newspaper that is sold off or shut down...
mikevm 13y ago
I wish I had enough HN karma to downvote you.
joonix 13y ago
Wow, really. Charging money for a product is a crime now? We must shun this practice? Ridiculous.

Please stop linking nytimes.com. I understand it's simple to subvert the paywall, but they shouldn't be encouraged regardless.

by maxk42 13y ago

Please stop linking nytimes.com. I understand it's simple to subvert the paywall, but they shouldn't be encouraged regardless.

smacktoward 13y ago

Seriously? Believe it or not, outside the VC bubble, businesses need to make money to survive. (I know, right? Shocking!) Without revenue, there won't be a New York Times anymore. The paywall seems to be helping with that (see: http://allthingsd.com/20120806/the-new-york-times-reports-a-digital-success-story/ http://allthingsd.com/20120806/the-new-york-times-reports-a-..., http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2012-12-20-the-new-york-times-paywall-is-working-better-than-anyone-had-guessed/ http://go.bloomberg.com/tech-blog/2012-12-20-the-new-york-ti...), and it's low enough that it's never seriously inconvenienced me as a non-subscriber. (Though it has prompted me a few times to think about becoming a subscriber, which is a feature, not a bug.) So what's the beef?

astrodust 13y ago
The beef is posts to paywall sites need to be tagged somehow.
PhasmaFelis 13y ago
The whole point of a news aggregator is to make it easy to find and consume content. It's bad form to link to content that a large chunk of their audience can't easily read, and by "easily" I mean "click the link". I get that the NYT has some worthwhile content that doesn't exist elsewhere, but paywalled links on HN should be clearly marked at the very least.
rocky1138 13y ago
Interestingly enough, whenever I go to nytimes I don't see a paywall. And I'm not a customer, either. ? Hmm.
- PhasmaFelis 13y ago
  You get a small number of free articles per month, tracked by cookie, before they start paywalling you. A regular HN reader can hit that cap pretty fast.

ajiang 13y ago

Maybe linking to Google's I'm Feeling Lucky with the NYT title as the search term will work http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I'm+Feeling+Lucky&q=let%20the%20poor%20have%20fun%20nyt http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I'm+Feeling+Lucky&q=let%20...

kanamekun 13y ago

So many posts on HN encourage startups to charge their customers and not to fall into the trap of offering everything for free... When it comes to content, I think we should be encouraging companies to find ways to fund high quality content. That's what the NYT has done with their metered pay wall, and it feels like this is something that should be encouraged. Otherwise they will become yet another newspaper that is sold off or shut down...

mikevm 13y ago

I wish I had enough HN karma to downvote you.

joonix 13y ago

Wow, really. Charging money for a product is a crime now? We must shun this practice? Ridiculous.