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This looks like the same set of points Patrick has been making since before the bubble burst. They're all great rules of thumb. And all bubbles pop eventually
by varelse 13y ago
This looks like the same set of points Patrick has been making since before the bubble burst. They're all great rules of thumb. And all bubbles pop eventually, but the problem is that it's very hard to predict exactly what pops them and when it will happen.
So in retrospect, it would have been a terrific idea to buy a house in SF in mid-2009 and then sell it now. But if you followed Patrick's advice, there's no way you would even consider doing so. And bluntly, if you're a hacker, you probably should follow Patrick's advice. SF is the land of perma-renters.
Paying too much rent now and moving when the current bubble pops and/or sticking around long enough for the Ellis Act to make your apartment a bargain both seem like better strategies than speculating to me. Focus on what you're good at to pay the rent in the short term.
It's the people whose brains are wired into local and national real estate markets who stand a decent chance of knowing when to buy or sell, many, not all, of them realtors. Now if you can give people a better finger on the pulse of this market, go for it. Zillow, Trulia, and Redfin need not apply - their attempts at property valuations are wacko.
- hackula1 13y agoBuy when people around you say the market sucks. Sell when people say it is awesome. This goes for real estate and basically anything else.
- varelse 13y agoAnd that's just it, Patrick is mostly a perma-bear. So trotting out his recommendations when the market is stupid up makes him seem more sagely than I personally think he is. When I used to participate in his online forum, it seemed to me that his main objective was to eliminate the mortgage interest and property tax deduction immediately so it would trigger an immediate crash in the market and allow anyone with cash on the side to clean up. Whatever floats your boat of course, but that seemed a pretty reckless plan to me. That said, reforming said deductions gradually is probably sensible, just not all at apocalyptically once.