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Quote: "Over the years we'll build up the island, doing most of the work ourselves. We'll build a communal building with a shower, kitchen, lounge, and bathroom
by lutusp 13y ago
Quote: "Over the years we'll build up the island, doing most of the work ourselves. We'll build a communal building with a shower, kitchen, lounge, and bathrooms. Each owner of the island gets to pick a spot on which to build their own little structure to sleep in. Together we'll build infrastructure, gardens, a fire pit, and whatever else we can come up with."
So, not counting significant others, ten people sharing a five-acre island. That's 1/2 acre per person except that not all five acres will be flat, buildable land, and you will have to sort out who lives where, without friction.
This works when you're young, before you start thinking about issues like privacy and personal space. By the time you and your friends are 30 years old, the island will likely be a distant and probably bitter memory.
I speak as someone who lived through the 1960s American back-to-the land, communal-living, private-property-is-a-crime phase.
- JoeAltmaier 13y agoBut it was beautiful while it lasted, no?
- lutusp 13y ago> But it was beautiful while it lasted, no? Yep. It was: http://www.atariarchives.org/deli/cottage_computer_programming.php http://www.atariarchives.org/deli/cottage_computer_programmi...
- SwellJoe 13y agoTynan is already over 30. He doesn't seem to be indicating anyone plans to live there permanently...it sounds like it is intended as a getaway, rather than a home. No mention of building gardens, major construction, or dealing with longterm freshwater, garbage and sewer, etc. In other words, he's building a private campground, not a commune.
- tynan 13y agoI'm already over 30, as are many members of the group. I was extremely selective on who I invited, and they're all people I trust completely. There will be issues in the future, but we've come up with rules to deal with them. Also, as noted below, none of us are planning on living there full time-- just visiting over the summer, hopefully all at the same time.
- lutusp 13y ago> I'm already over 30 ... Then I envy your youthful outlook. :) By the time I was 30 I had had enough of communal living for several lifetimes.
- tuzakey 13y agoYou might want to draft a bylaw the codify the no one living there permanently part. Any plans to post your LLC operating agreement + bylaws publicly and/or in source control?
- toby 13y agoFor what it's worth, I live in SF and know of several communities of people over 30 - people who are well-educated and could definitely afford to live in their own space - who choose to live together in big warehouse conversions. I'm sure there's drama but they consider being around other like-minded people to be worthwhile. In this case it's just shared vacation land which is even easier, and they'll each get their own plot. My family of 6 lived on a quarter acre in a suburb and that always felt like plenty of space.
- cenhyperion 13y agoIf you're not planning on living there permanently I don't see it as much of an issue. That said I'm used to living in cities where half an acre per person sounds like a huge amount of land.