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I'm on the fence here. The NFL is not HBO. They're not locking down content and forcing you into old business models to get to their content. The NFL goes to GR

by criley2 13y ago

I'm on the fence here. The NFL is not HBO. They're not locking down content and forcing you into old business models to get to their content. The NFL goes to GREAT LENGTHS to make content available to you without cheating. GREAT LENGTHS. * Sunday Ticket is free for DirecTV users * Sunday Ticket is $40/season with the purchase of $60 Madden 25 (meaning, $100/total for the whole season of Sunday Ticket), and does not require a cable/satellite package of any kind * NFL Rewind offers all games and condensed games next-day (not live) for $40/season (or $10/mo) * HDTV Bunny Ears or Aereo will provide local in-market games for free (or the cost of Aereo) * Many games are broadcast online for free on NFL.com or through the website of the network showing the game, like Fox or CBS And I'm sure there are other options, too. My friends and I are discussing the NFL Rewind option, while it's not live, it does include condensed games which is great for fantasy players with lots of players across lots of teams.

icebraining 13y ago
Seems odd that you mention Aereo, since that's a whole company essentially doing a trick similar to OP, not exactly an NFL-approved content distribution system.
- criley2 13y ago
  OTA is an approved content distribution system. How I choose to tune into OTA broadcast is my own business.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    Sure, but it's not exactly a good example of the great lengths the NFL goes to provide content, since it wasn't intended
    - criley2 13y ago
      Which is why it was included in the same line as bunny ears HDTV, which captures 100% of what Aereo does and is free, and supported by the NFL.
drgath 13y ago
> Sunday Ticket is free for DirecTV users No, it is $60 per month or $300 / season. > Sunday Ticket is $40/season with the purchase of $60 Madden 25 (meaning, $100/total for the whole season of Sunday Ticket), and does not require a cable/satellite package of any kind That's a little misleading. A) It sold out before the season began. B) The cost is $100, because for people like me who don't own an XBOX or PS3 and bought the game for the coupon, I now have a game I'm never going to play. I shouldn't have any issues selling it, but it will be at a used game price. Also, you are supposed to only be allowed the streaming option only if you can't get DirecTV service, which most people in the US can. IMO, skirting that rule (as I've done) is no better/worse than using a European IP. You are either being dishonest to the NFL, or to DirecTV. > HDTV Bunny Ears or Aereo will provide local in-market games for free (or the cost of Aereo) As they have for 40+ years. This discussion isn't about in-market games, it's for out-of-market. Also, depending on who you talk to (certainly the networks and the NFL), Aereo is considered cheating. > Many games are broadcast online for free on NFL.com or through the website of the network showing the game, like Fox or CBS No, many aren't. Some are. But the key is I want to watch my team every week, and my team (as most) only play a few primetime games per season, which tend to be streamed. To conclude, I'm a avid sports fan who lives out of market, and I pay for the MLB package, the MLS package, various college sports subscriptions, and have paid the $300 for DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket in the past. I'm happy to pay for my sports, and I'd love to pay the NFL a reasonable price for an NFL package, but since they don't offer one, I have to resort to cheating DirecTV.
- criley2 13y ago
  If you pay $300 for Sunday ticket with DirectTV call them up RIGHT NOW and get your refund. That's what someone pays at full price doing zero work to lower their bill. That's the price people pay who don't even try to get a lower price, the easy price. I literally have never met someone who pays the $300 for Sunday Ticket, and I've never heard of DirectTV enforcing the $300 price tag. Sounds like you've had some terrible luck. I notice you replied to everything except for Rewind. The fact remains that there are many options depending on device, and the fact that you don't realize the price of DirectTV Sunday Ticket tells me that you seem to be more willing to cheat them than to find the right deal. Seriously, if you want to cheat DirectTV call them up, go to retentions for cancelling service, and get FREE (or heavily discounted) Sunday Ticket, just like many others.

by criley2 13y ago

icebraining 13y ago

Seems odd that you mention Aereo, since that's a whole company essentially doing a trick similar to OP, not exactly an NFL-approved content distribution system.

criley2 13y ago
OTA is an approved content distribution system. How I choose to tune into OTA broadcast is my own business.
- icebraining 13y ago
  Sure, but it's not exactly a good example of the great lengths the NFL goes to provide content, since it wasn't intended
  - criley2 13y ago
    Which is why it was included in the same line as bunny ears HDTV, which captures 100% of what Aereo does and is free, and supported by the NFL.

drgath 13y ago

> Sunday Ticket is free for DirecTV users No, it is $60 per month or $300 / season. > Sunday Ticket is $40/season with the purchase of $60 Madden 25 (meaning, $100/total for the whole season of Sunday Ticket), and does not require a cable/satellite package of any kind That's a little misleading. A) It sold out before the season began. B) The cost is $100, because for people like me who don't own an XBOX or PS3 and bought the game for the coupon, I now have a game I'm never going to play. I shouldn't have any issues selling it, but it will be at a used game price. Also, you are supposed to only be allowed the streaming option only if you can't get DirecTV service, which most people in the US can. IMO, skirting that rule (as I've done) is no better/worse than using a European IP. You are either being dishonest to the NFL, or to DirecTV. > HDTV Bunny Ears or Aereo will provide local in-market games for free (or the cost of Aereo) As they have for 40+ years. This discussion isn't about in-market games, it's for out-of-market. Also, depending on who you talk to (certainly the networks and the NFL), Aereo is considered cheating. > Many games are broadcast online for free on NFL.com or through the website of the network showing the game, like Fox or CBS No, many aren't. Some are. But the key is I want to watch my team every week, and my team (as most) only play a few primetime games per season, which tend to be streamed. To conclude, I'm a avid sports fan who lives out of market, and I pay for the MLB package, the MLS package, various college sports subscriptions, and have paid the $300 for DirecTV NFL Sunday Ticket in the past. I'm happy to pay for my sports, and I'd love to pay the NFL a reasonable price for an NFL package, but since they don't offer one, I have to resort to cheating DirecTV.

criley2 13y ago
If you pay $300 for Sunday ticket with DirectTV call them up RIGHT NOW and get your refund. That's what someone pays at full price doing zero work to lower their bill. That's the price people pay who don't even try to get a lower price, the easy price. I literally have never met someone who pays the $300 for Sunday Ticket, and I've never heard of DirectTV enforcing the $300 price tag. Sounds like you've had some terrible luck. I notice you replied to everything except for Rewind. The fact remains that there are many options depending on device, and the fact that you don't realize the price of DirectTV Sunday Ticket tells me that you seem to be more willing to cheat them than to find the right deal. Seriously, if you want to cheat DirectTV call them up, go to retentions for cancelling service, and get FREE (or heavily discounted) Sunday Ticket, just like many others.