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Greenwald somewhere mentioned that there's material for months to come if I am not mistaken. So besides that he's doing a good job (agreed), I think Snowden sim

by scrrr 13y ago

Greenwald somewhere mentioned that there's material for months to come if I am not mistaken. So besides that he's doing a good job (agreed), I think Snowden simply provided a huge amount of information.

jbigelow76 13y ago
If there really is months more worth of information I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue. I guess it will depend on how bad each revelation is but I could easily imagine a lot people picking the one revelation that really bothered them and then framing all others relative to that: "they're doing Y too? What's the point when they are already doing X?" My armchair quarterback opinion, reveal the rest now and hope for a critical mass of outrage.
- jacquesm 13y ago
  > will experience outrage fatigue. That is already happening, even here on HN where people consider this off-topic because it is also mainstream news.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue. That's a valid concern about something which I consider the most disgusting stance a citizen could have. As if news and outrage are supposed to be novel and entertaining. It shows that those who feel that way are not active citizens of a democracy, but passive couch potatoes, overstimulated with media BS and their own private affairs, and unable to think or act to better their country and communities. Consider the enormity of using the same excuse for black rights ("Jim Crow laws? Seggregation? Who cares about this, didn't we already have a civil war and a KKK discussion for so many years?") or anything that took time to fix.
- uptown 13y ago
  "I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue." Unfortunately, I fear the mainstream mindset towards this issue will hinge on how the major political candidates in the 2016 election choose to frame the issue. If there's widespread consensus from the leading Presidential candidates in both parties that this is not an issue - then the mainstream populous is likely to get in-line with that mindset in-support of "their" candidate. I hope the public perception of these issues doesn't get dumbed down to political-party allegiance, but I fear it may be the case.
  - flatfilefan 13y ago
    This is a very insightful way to look at things and it highlights the role of the leadership. In current world not much of the stuff matters, actually, as it is very high on the Maslow's pyramid. So it has to be thought leaders who define the course of action for the "careless masses" (TM).

by scrrr 13y ago

jbigelow76 13y ago

If there really is months more worth of information I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue. I guess it will depend on how bad each revelation is but I could easily imagine a lot people picking the one revelation that really bothered them and then framing all others relative to that: "they're doing Y too? What's the point when they are already doing X?" My armchair quarterback opinion, reveal the rest now and hope for a critical mass of outrage.

jacquesm 13y ago
> will experience outrage fatigue. That is already happening, even here on HN where people consider this off-topic because it is also mainstream news.
coldtea 13y ago
>I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue. That's a valid concern about something which I consider the most disgusting stance a citizen could have. As if news and outrage are supposed to be novel and entertaining. It shows that those who feel that way are not active citizens of a democracy, but passive couch potatoes, overstimulated with media BS and their own private affairs, and unable to think or act to better their country and communities. Consider the enormity of using the same excuse for black rights ("Jim Crow laws? Seggregation? Who cares about this, didn't we already have a civil war and a KKK discussion for so many years?") or anything that took time to fix.
uptown 13y ago
"I wonder if the public, US or otherwise (as we find more countries with intelligence agencies working as accessories), will experience outrage fatigue." Unfortunately, I fear the mainstream mindset towards this issue will hinge on how the major political candidates in the 2016 election choose to frame the issue. If there's widespread consensus from the leading Presidential candidates in both parties that this is not an issue - then the mainstream populous is likely to get in-line with that mindset in-support of "their" candidate. I hope the public perception of these issues doesn't get dumbed down to political-party allegiance, but I fear it may be the case.
- flatfilefan 13y ago
  This is a very insightful way to look at things and it highlights the role of the leadership. In current world not much of the stuff matters, actually, as it is very high on the Maslow's pyramid. So it has to be thought leaders who define the course of action for the "careless masses" (TM).