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Has anyone considered that maybe Eatlime was developing twitvid.com parallel to twitvid.io, and they just happened to launch a few days later? After all, it's

by evdawg 17y ago

Has anyone considered that maybe Eatlime was developing twitvid.com parallel to twitvid.io, and they just happened to launch a few days later? After all, it's not like the concept is particularly original. And, the name is a spinoff of Twitpic. Twitvid is a very obvious name for a Twitter video-sharing site.

abl 17y ago
It is most likely, as these sites were probably not built in a matter of days. The concern is not about that, it is about copyright - about the look and feel, and the name. What is the likelyhood of twitvid.com just happening to design the same exact layout as twitvid.io ?
- pj 17y ago
  twitvid.com looks more like twitter than it looks like twitvid.io. twitvid.com also looks more like twitter than twitvid.io looks like twitter. I don't believe twitvid.com copied anything at all from twitvid.io.
  - dcurtis 17y ago
    Are you one of the people behind Twitvid.com? You would have to be blind to think there was no blatant copying here. Even the icons are the same.
    - abl 17y ago
      maybe one of the designers / programmers of twitvid.io is selling source code to twitvid.com on the side... :)
    - pj 17y ago
      No, I've never used either one or even knew about them before this debate. Actually, I think I did hear about the .io here at HN a little while ago...
    - evdawg 17y ago
      Err, where do you see the same icons?
    - jeremymcanally 17y ago
      Uh no they are not. Are you blind? They're not even close.
ashleyw 17y ago
I thought that, and I'd have believed it if it wasn't for them basically coping the text... However, to me it's irrelevant, the Twitvid.io guys were very stupid to assume nobody would launch a similar service on the .com domain…which was already registered! I honestly applaud them for jumping at the opportunity. I actually think they have a better design too, so I wouldn't call it a clone...they could have changed where the login box was and stuff, but that would have been an absurd waste of time.
pj 17y ago
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor I don't believe either groups were stupid, merely ignorant of the other's existence. But maybe I'm stupid and they are both malicious.
- smhinsey 17y ago
  That Hanlon was a real optimist, eh? I think that in the super-competitive startup arena, emotions are going to run high. When you have so much at stake, it's easy to overreact. I sometimes wish I could have a mental equivalent of my ubiquitous work-email-client 1 minute delayed send rule.
- pg 17y ago
  The guys from Eatlime filed a federal trademark application for the name "Twitvid" the day Twitvid was covered in TechCrunch. They themselves weren't launched yet, and they filed a trademark application for a name they knew another company was already using. That is not mere carelessness. Up to a certain point the Eatlime guys were unaware of Twitvid, but that point was probably several days before the TechCrunch article.
jeremymcanally 17y ago
Especially since (a) Eatlime owns the copyright on the name (see comment in other stupid post about this) and (b) they both look like standard Twitter apps. Every Twitter app has those standard fields, and the terminology "copied" is general ("OMG THEY USED TWEEPS...BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE DOES"). What's next? Twitpic accused of ripping off TwitVid.io? Why aren't we seeing some stupid post like this about TwitVid.in or the other Twitter video sites.
pg 17y ago
"just happened to launch a few days later?" They'd probably been working on something, but they didn't have the name twitvid.com, and (as they've said themselves) they didn't just happen to launch a few days later: they rushed to launch something after Twitvid launched.

by evdawg 17y ago

abl 17y ago

It is most likely, as these sites were probably not built in a matter of days. The concern is not about that, it is about copyright - about the look and feel, and the name. What is the likelyhood of twitvid.com just happening to design the same exact layout as twitvid.io ?

pj 17y ago
twitvid.com looks more like twitter than it looks like twitvid.io. twitvid.com also looks more like twitter than twitvid.io looks like twitter. I don't believe twitvid.com copied anything at all from twitvid.io.
- dcurtis 17y ago
  Are you one of the people behind Twitvid.com? You would have to be blind to think there was no blatant copying here. Even the icons are the same.
  - abl 17y ago
    maybe one of the designers / programmers of twitvid.io is selling source code to twitvid.com on the side... :)
  - pj 17y ago
    No, I've never used either one or even knew about them before this debate. Actually, I think I did hear about the .io here at HN a little while ago...
  - evdawg 17y ago
    Err, where do you see the same icons?
  - jeremymcanally 17y ago
    Uh no they are not. Are you blind? They're not even close.

ashleyw 17y ago

I thought that, and I'd have believed it if it wasn't for them basically coping the text... However, to me it's irrelevant, the Twitvid.io guys were very stupid to assume nobody would launch a similar service on the .com domain…which was already registered! I honestly applaud them for jumping at the opportunity. I actually think they have a better design too, so I wouldn't call it a clone...they could have changed where the login box was and stuff, but that would have been an absurd waste of time.

pj 17y ago

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor I don't believe either groups were stupid, merely ignorant of the other's existence. But maybe I'm stupid and they are both malicious.

smhinsey 17y ago
That Hanlon was a real optimist, eh? I think that in the super-competitive startup arena, emotions are going to run high. When you have so much at stake, it's easy to overreact. I sometimes wish I could have a mental equivalent of my ubiquitous work-email-client 1 minute delayed send rule.
pg 17y ago
The guys from Eatlime filed a federal trademark application for the name "Twitvid" the day Twitvid was covered in TechCrunch. They themselves weren't launched yet, and they filed a trademark application for a name they knew another company was already using. That is not mere carelessness. Up to a certain point the Eatlime guys were unaware of Twitvid, but that point was probably several days before the TechCrunch article.

jeremymcanally 17y ago

Especially since (a) Eatlime owns the copyright on the name (see comment in other stupid post about this) and (b) they both look like standard Twitter apps. Every Twitter app has those standard fields, and the terminology "copied" is general ("OMG THEY USED TWEEPS...BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE DOES"). What's next? Twitpic accused of ripping off TwitVid.io? Why aren't we seeing some stupid post like this about TwitVid.in or the other Twitter video sites.

pg 17y ago

"just happened to launch a few days later?" They'd probably been working on something, but they didn't have the name twitvid.com, and (as they've said themselves) they didn't just happen to launch a few days later: they rushed to launch something after Twitvid launched.