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It's sad everyone on here is amazed the good guys have good tools. Sure it probably cost them $1M USD to have some server record an incoming ip from an http req

by jumby 13y ago

It's sad everyone on here is amazed the good guys have good tools. Sure it probably cost them $1M USD to have some server record an incoming ip from an http request, but still. "Oh noes, we aren't 3 steps ahead of them, they are 3 steps ahead of us." Fuckin-a they are and I'm glad. Getting rid of scumbag terrorists, child porn shitbirds and spying on foreign adversaries is fine by me. And yes, I already know the comments will be "what if they designate you a terrorist some day". I suppose I will cross that bridge when that happens.

enneff 13y ago
What are you talking about? Nobody is amazed that the "good guys" (btw, whose good guys?) have good tools. It's been known for decades that the USA has some of the best signals intelligence people and systems. But that's not even relevant here. This particular attack exploits a known issue of Tor, which has existed by design since day one. Hacking machines isn't rocket science, and the particular vulnerability in Firefox was public before the attack. What people are surprised by is the brazen and open use of an illegal hack by law enforcement officials. We have laws for a reason and lawmen to uphold those laws. When the lawmen are breaking the laws we're pretty much fucked. I'm sorry that you can't see that.
- kropotkin 13y ago
  This particular attack exploits a known issue of Tor, which has existed by design since day one. Just so everyone's clear, this was not a "known issue of Tor". It was a javascript based Firefox exploit.
  - enneff 13y ago
    The known issue of Tor that I refer to (and sorry for not being more specific) is that a buggy client can leak your identity. The Firefox exploit leverages this design weakness.
autodidakto 13y ago
> I suppose I will cross that bridge when that happens. No. When that happens, you won't cross it. You'll fall right into the river.
a3n 13y ago
The problem is, as you're crossing that bridge it's burning behind you.

by jumby 13y ago

enneff 13y ago

What are you talking about? Nobody is amazed that the "good guys" (btw, whose good guys?) have good tools. It's been known for decades that the USA has some of the best signals intelligence people and systems. But that's not even relevant here. This particular attack exploits a known issue of Tor, which has existed by design since day one. Hacking machines isn't rocket science, and the particular vulnerability in Firefox was public before the attack. What people are surprised by is the brazen and open use of an illegal hack by law enforcement officials. We have laws for a reason and lawmen to uphold those laws. When the lawmen are breaking the laws we're pretty much fucked. I'm sorry that you can't see that.

kropotkin 13y ago
This particular attack exploits a known issue of Tor, which has existed by design since day one. Just so everyone's clear, this was not a "known issue of Tor". It was a javascript based Firefox exploit.
- enneff 13y ago
  The known issue of Tor that I refer to (and sorry for not being more specific) is that a buggy client can leak your identity. The Firefox exploit leverages this design weakness.

autodidakto 13y ago

> I suppose I will cross that bridge when that happens. No. When that happens, you won't cross it. You'll fall right into the river.

a3n 13y ago

The problem is, as you're crossing that bridge it's burning behind you.