> You repeatedly claim that vi is lame because it has to work with keyboards with no control keys. You also say that you used vi on terminals that lacked a cont

> You repeatedly claim that vi is lame because it has to work with keyboards with no control keys. You also say that you used vi on terminals that lacked a control key. Your claims are simply false. First, I never said either of those things anywhere. But, having sampled the level of personal responsibility among the people in this thread, I won't bother asking you to try to locate your source for those false claims. The reason vi doesn't use control keys is because many keyboards in those days didn't have control keys to use. Which word don't you understand? The authors couldn't exploit keys that didn't exist, so they avoided use of an entire keyboard filled with control keys, an unfortunate necessity. This is not to say there were no keyboards with control keys, only that the designers didn't want to lock out users having keyboards without control keys. That's why vi used letter keys for arrow keys, and shifted modes by means of something other than a control key, to make control functions possible in the absence of control keys. > But please stop making claims about vi and early terminals that are simply and obviously false. What? I should defend statements that I never made, that you invented and then tried to hold me responsible for? If you will stop inventing quotes, I will stop calling you out on them. Now, as just one example among many, locate where I said "vi is lame" ANYWHERE, FOR ANY REASON, IN ANY CONTEXT. And when you discover that you invented it, you will apologize.