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Did you even read what he said? There's no overlap between your scenario and "someone who hasn't really accomplished anything outside of the protective cocoon o

Did you even read what he said? There's no overlap between your scenario and "someone who hasn't really accomplished anything outside of the protective cocoon of their parents' home(s) and income".

nknighthb 13y ago
Did you even read the thread? He's either equating "hasn't really accomplished anything" with not having a degree, or he's utterly off-topic. And if someone actually does have wealthy parents who would always help if needed, does that mean they'll always be "less than adults"? Every possible way of reading the comment is so patronizing and elitist I can't believe you would seek to defend it.
- asdfologist 13y ago
  Read the comment again. bdcravens never implied he agrees with the article. He's using "less than adults" to describe the set of people who haven't accomplished anything. This set and the set of people without college degrees may have substantial overlap, but you don't belong to the overlap by definition.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    I've read it many times. The most generous possible interpretation I can ascribe is that he's completely off-topic in his response to the parent comment and considers anyone with wealthy parents to be less than adult. The more likely interpretation in-context is that he thinks anyone who hasn't gone through college is less than an adult. You're not going to convince me otherwise by repeating the same argument with different words.
    - bdcravens 13y ago
      I'm a bit biased towards those with wealthy parents perhaps. My point, which I may have failed to make, is that business success requires personal success, and if you haven't experienced that on your own (where true failure is a very real possibility), then I doubt you're ready. That growth can come in a variety of ways: college success, raising a child as a single parent, or even dropping out of high school to work and make ends meet. That growth can occur in the presence of wealth, but I think it can be tough, and proceeding through the rigors of college may be the easiest path (but not only path, and no guarantee of growth even then)
- bdcravens 13y ago
  Responding directly to this comment; please read what I wrote to your initial comment. If you've succeeded outside of the cocoon I referred to, then you have "really accomplished anything". Gates had wealthy parents, but I'd argue that he forged his own path on his own.

Did you even read what he said? There's no overlap between your scenario and "someone who hasn't really accomplished anything outside of the protective cocoon of their parents' home(s) and income".

nknighthb 13y ago

Did you even read the thread? He's either equating "hasn't really accomplished anything" with not having a degree, or he's utterly off-topic. And if someone actually does have wealthy parents who would always help if needed, does that mean they'll always be "less than adults"? Every possible way of reading the comment is so patronizing and elitist I can't believe you would seek to defend it.

asdfologist 13y ago
Read the comment again. bdcravens never implied he agrees with the article. He's using "less than adults" to describe the set of people who haven't accomplished anything. This set and the set of people without college degrees may have substantial overlap, but you don't belong to the overlap by definition.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  I've read it many times. The most generous possible interpretation I can ascribe is that he's completely off-topic in his response to the parent comment and considers anyone with wealthy parents to be less than adult. The more likely interpretation in-context is that he thinks anyone who hasn't gone through college is less than an adult. You're not going to convince me otherwise by repeating the same argument with different words.
  - bdcravens 13y ago
    I'm a bit biased towards those with wealthy parents perhaps. My point, which I may have failed to make, is that business success requires personal success, and if you haven't experienced that on your own (where true failure is a very real possibility), then I doubt you're ready. That growth can come in a variety of ways: college success, raising a child as a single parent, or even dropping out of high school to work and make ends meet. That growth can occur in the presence of wealth, but I think it can be tough, and proceeding through the rigors of college may be the easiest path (but not only path, and no guarantee of growth even then)
bdcravens 13y ago
Responding directly to this comment; please read what I wrote to your initial comment. If you've succeeded outside of the cocoon I referred to, then you have "really accomplished anything". Gates had wealthy parents, but I'd argue that he forged his own path on his own.