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"my Page had 338,050 Likes, my Support Group had 13,360 members, and my Interest List had 1.47 Million followers. But all of that work was wiped out in an insta

"my Page had 338,050 Likes, my Support Group had 13,360 members, and my Interest List had 1.47 Million followers. But all of that work was wiped out in an instant when Facebook decided to shut it down without notice." "Not only did they remove the page, but they also blocked my personal account from posting anything for 12 hours (I can’t even Like anything). They also did the same for anyone who was an Administrator or Moderator of the Page – including my wife’s personal account! Members of the support team, who generously volunteer their time to help users, have been shut out as well. They did one big sweep, I guess." I came here to post this story, it is unfortunate that this news is not getting more visibility. If possible, check "tell facebook what you think" and try to help Matt since he has worked very hard on this app

res0nat0r 13y ago
It is against the Facebook TOS, unfortunately shouldn't we be telling him "don't violate Facebook's TOS without expecting repercussions?"
- Karunamon 13y ago
  The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.
  - wutbrodo 13y ago
    I tend to have a lot of problems with the way Facebook operates (mostly involving how they treat their users), but they seem pretty reasonable in this case. How is it draconian to not allow a Page on your platform that (among other things) blocks your source of revenue? (social fixer allows blocking Facebook ads)
    - Karunamon 13y ago
      So does Adblock Plus, so does Noscript, so do the content filtering features of major browsers, yet those all have major pages. Blocking the people is just plain dickery on Facebook's part.
      - res0nat0r 13y ago
        Not at all. FBpurity is still functioning. I have to download it from a 3rd party site. You can't expect Facebook to allow products which deliberately violate their TOS to be hosted/promoted/advertised on Facebook.
        Karunamon 13y ago
        >You can't expect Facebook to allow products which deliberately violate their TOS to be hosted/promoted/advertised on Facebook. I certainly can (and do) expect humanity and rational thought to take priority over cold application of The Rules Über Alles - and any instances of the latter deserve to be called out for the silliness that they are. Further, it's not like Facebook didn't know about this until now. Social Fixer used to be called Better Facebook until Facebook tapped them on the shoulder and asked them to change the name last year.
        res0nat0r 13y ago
        FB, Google, Amazon etc aren't humanitarian organizations or charity. They are in the business of providing a product, and making money while doing it.
        Karunamon 13y ago
        Which has what to do with the price of tea in china?
        res0nat0r 13y ago
        It has to do with the fact that they have no reason to "play nice for the betterment of humanity" if you don't follow their rules, and every reason to be well within their rights to boot you from their site for what ever reason they choose.
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    - Karunamon 13y ago
      I appreciate the civility. But please keep in mind what this is. This is not a startup company or a business who was shot down, this was a hobby project by one guy[1]. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.. better I suppose since nobody's livelihood was wrecked over it. SF is not a threat to Facebook in any way - this is just plain old dickery hiding behind the rule book as an excuse. [1]: http://socialfixer.com/about.php http://socialfixer.com/about.php
  - lutusp 13y ago
    > I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies. You speak of Facebook as though it's a democracy or a public service. Facebook is a business, not a charity, and not a humanitarian enterprise.
    - Karunamon 13y ago
      You open to the public, you open yourself up to public criticism. The way the business is run is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, this sucks, and complaining (loudly) is the way to get it fixed.
      - lutusp 13y ago
        > You open to the public, you open yourself up to public criticism. Yes, but not public control or public voting on policies. > The fact of the matter is, this sucks, and complaining (loudly) is the way to get it fixed. You think businesses deserve to be controlled by the loudest voice among its detractors? If that were true, Tesla would be out of business -- it has many quiet fans, and a few loud detractors.

res0nat0r 13y ago

It is against the Facebook TOS, unfortunately shouldn't we be telling him "don't violate Facebook's TOS without expecting repercussions?"

Karunamon 13y ago
The TOS is not above criticism or complaint, and I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies.
- wutbrodo 13y ago
  I tend to have a lot of problems with the way Facebook operates (mostly involving how they treat their users), but they seem pretty reasonable in this case. How is it draconian to not allow a Page on your platform that (among other things) blocks your source of revenue? (social fixer allows blocking Facebook ads)
  - Karunamon 13y ago
    So does Adblock Plus, so does Noscript, so do the content filtering features of major browsers, yet those all have major pages. Blocking the people is just plain dickery on Facebook's part.
    - res0nat0r 13y ago
      Not at all. FBpurity is still functioning. I have to download it from a 3rd party site. You can't expect Facebook to allow products which deliberately violate their TOS to be hosted/promoted/advertised on Facebook.
      - Karunamon 13y ago
        >You can't expect Facebook to allow products which deliberately violate their TOS to be hosted/promoted/advertised on Facebook. I certainly can (and do) expect humanity and rational thought to take priority over cold application of The Rules Über Alles - and any instances of the latter deserve to be called out for the silliness that they are. Further, it's not like Facebook didn't know about this until now. Social Fixer used to be called Better Facebook until Facebook tapped them on the shoulder and asked them to change the name last year.
        res0nat0r 13y ago
        FB, Google, Amazon etc aren't humanitarian organizations or charity. They are in the business of providing a product, and making money while doing it.
        Karunamon 13y ago
        Which has what to do with the price of tea in china?
        res0nat0r 13y ago
        It has to do with the fact that they have no reason to "play nice for the betterment of humanity" if you don't follow their rules, and every reason to be well within their rights to boot you from their site for what ever reason they choose.
- deleted 13y ago
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  - Karunamon 13y ago
    I appreciate the civility. But please keep in mind what this is. This is not a startup company or a business who was shot down, this was a hobby project by one guy[1]. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.. better I suppose since nobody's livelihood was wrecked over it. SF is not a threat to Facebook in any way - this is just plain old dickery hiding behind the rule book as an excuse. [1]: http://socialfixer.com/about.php http://socialfixer.com/about.php
- lutusp 13y ago
  > I for one am tired of people being shouted down because they dared take issue with draconian policies. You speak of Facebook as though it's a democracy or a public service. Facebook is a business, not a charity, and not a humanitarian enterprise.
  - Karunamon 13y ago
    You open to the public, you open yourself up to public criticism. The way the business is run is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, this sucks, and complaining (loudly) is the way to get it fixed.
    - lutusp 13y ago
      > You open to the public, you open yourself up to public criticism. Yes, but not public control or public voting on policies. > The fact of the matter is, this sucks, and complaining (loudly) is the way to get it fixed. You think businesses deserve to be controlled by the loudest voice among its detractors? If that were true, Tesla would be out of business -- it has many quiet fans, and a few loud detractors.