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>Some kids who have poor role models are going to ask for oral sex from boys or girls that like them. In some cultures, healthy and loving relationships betwee

>Some kids who have poor role models are going to ask for oral sex from boys or girls that like them. In some cultures, healthy and loving relationships between teenagers are beautiful. The emotional drama that follows - which advocates for infantilization use to say teenagers cannot be trusted to handle relationships - is part of growing up and learning to be a person. The idea that this is wrong, idiotic, deserving of punishment, immoral, or indicative of bad role models reflects a specific view of religious morality that not everyone shares. Teaching people to be ashamed of who they are and what they wan't isn't necessarily the best approach. It's a fascinating cultural shift, and the religious right is fighting hard to stay in the 50s, but I think we're slowly moving forward. Then again, I was raised by atheist liberals, and we're not exactly popular.

Gormo 13y ago
> It's a fascinating cultural shift, and the religious right is fighting hard to stay in the 50s Which "50s" are you referring to?
refurb 13y ago
The religious right? That makes no sense. It's the religious right that often encourages marriage at a young age. I've never heard of members of the religious right "shaming" teenage dating.
- superuser2 13y ago
  The religious right encourages abstinence-only education, discourages contraception, and absolutely does not want teenagers in dating relationships or having sex for pleasure. They want them to move from supervised, limited, nonsexual courtships to child-producing marriages as quickly as possible. Also the less extreme religious right that I see recognizes the need not to be pregnant in college, and wants the whole process moved into early 20s rather than teens.
  - refurb 13y ago
    We must have different experiences with the religious right.
dragonwriter 13y ago
> It's a fascinating cultural shift, and the religious right is fighting hard to stay in the 50s To the extent this is true, its not the actual 1950s, but a mythical image of the 1950s created later, that's mostly associated with that particular time because its a distorted image of what the world was like prior to the supposed liberal reengineering of society in the 1960s and beyond. (And probably because at the time it started to coalesce, "the 1950s" was an easily-romanticized childhood time of the audience the image was meant to appeal to.)
- superuser2 13y ago
  This is interesting. Where can I read about this?

Gormo 13y ago

> It's a fascinating cultural shift, and the religious right is fighting hard to stay in the 50s Which "50s" are you referring to?

refurb 13y ago

The religious right? That makes no sense. It's the religious right that often encourages marriage at a young age. I've never heard of members of the religious right "shaming" teenage dating.

superuser2 13y ago
The religious right encourages abstinence-only education, discourages contraception, and absolutely does not want teenagers in dating relationships or having sex for pleasure. They want them to move from supervised, limited, nonsexual courtships to child-producing marriages as quickly as possible. Also the less extreme religious right that I see recognizes the need not to be pregnant in college, and wants the whole process moved into early 20s rather than teens.
- refurb 13y ago
  We must have different experiences with the religious right.

dragonwriter 13y ago

> It's a fascinating cultural shift, and the religious right is fighting hard to stay in the 50s To the extent this is true, its not the actual 1950s, but a mythical image of the 1950s created later, that's mostly associated with that particular time because its a distorted image of what the world was like prior to the supposed liberal reengineering of society in the 1960s and beyond. (And probably because at the time it started to coalesce, "the 1950s" was an easily-romanticized childhood time of the audience the image was meant to appeal to.)

superuser2 13y ago
This is interesting. Where can I read about this?