I am amazed at how one web framework managed to completely redefine a long standing pattern in such a short time. MVC is quite old, and well established, and w

I am amazed at how one web framework managed to completely redefine a long standing pattern in such a short time. MVC is quite old, and well established, and was even used in web development well before rails came along. But now suddenly 99% of people think MVC means a rails style mess.