php is not a framework. How many people use bare ruby , bare python or bare java to code webpages ? ( and by the way JSP can be a mess too , so it's not about t

php is not a framework. How many people use bare ruby , bare python or bare java to code webpages ? ( and by the way JSP can be a mess too , so it's not about the language,it's about the brain behind the desk ). Rails , Django and others give devs MVC for free , not PHP, not Ruby , not Python.