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Vim has changed a lot since when you were using vi or your memories are off - either way your descriptions are inaccurate. They lead to the explanation of the m
by aidos 13y ago
Vim has changed a lot since when you were using vi or your memories are off - either way your descriptions are inaccurate. They lead to the explanation of the miscommunication about modes though.
You don't type ':i' to get to insert mode, you just hit 'i'. You don't hit Esc, Esc - it's just Esc (though lots of people remap it to 'jj').
Really these are the two modes I was referring to - you need to move between them, yes, but you'll always be in normal mode except for times you're inserting a bit of text. The way you describe using it is the mindset of everyone who first starts using vim and wants to stay in insert mode. I started that way - but it's not the way vim is used. It's the first thing beginners have to understand - normal mode is where you'll spend almost all of your time.
I don't understand what's comical about 'c3w' - "Change 3 Words". You know what's comical? Reaching for the mouse to highlight 3 words to change. Though, you can make that choice - vim supports the mouse too these days. I used it when I first started on vim - it was a bad idea as it's so much slower than using the commands.
Again, I stand by my assertions; Vim is faster and more powerful - other editors are easier to learn. You still haven't provided a shred of evidence to the contrary.
I think your condescending tone is really unhelpful. I've given you the time and respect you deserved to address each of your comments. It would be honourable of you to treat me in the same way.
- lutusp 13y ago> Vim has changed a lot ... I just crafted the above example using the current vim. No memory required. Vim still imitates vi, and vi still imitates 1970. Extremely inefficient, steep learning curve in order not to press readily available control keys. > I don't understand what's comical about 'c3w' - "Change 3 Words". First, if you happen to be entering text beforehand, the number of characters required to select three words isn't three, it's five. Second, it's comical in modern times because there are much easier ways to select an arbitrary number of words, readily available ways, ways that don't cost any more than vim does, ways that are available on the machines owned by vim's advocates -- excuse me, living advocates. Machines that have keyboards with control keys. On a modern machine, if I want to select three words, or 2 1/2 words, or 3 1/2 paragraphs, I glide the mouse cursor across the desired text. And to do so, I don't have to enter a special mouse mode first. This conversation is funny for the same reasons that a conversation about a horseless carriage is funny. No, there's no miniature horse hidden in there -- they did away with the horse entirely. I know it sounds fantastic.