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A Social Network for Crohn’s Disease – Crohnology (YC S12)

83 points by seanahrens 13y ago

frio 13y ago
I suffer from UC, and a cavalcade of related illnesses. I honestly believe that tools like this are the future. Particularly for me, I've noticed one of the problems with long term, chronic illness, is that you lose perspective -- an hour in the bog might seem like you're doing better than yesterday (and after 2 years, yesterday is "normal"), but for a normal person would imply it's perhaps time to see a doctor. I've hence come to rely quite closely on quantified self type stuff -- tracking how I'm doing on observable, concrete metrics -- so that I can see from a rational perspective that I've crossed a line. I've been building tooling in my spare time to give me d3 graphs and whatnot of my health, rather than server metrics. I believe that kind of passive data gathering (active's no good, because people forget, lie, etc.) is going to become crucial for monitoring health, preventing illness, and improving patient outcomes. Which is a long way of saying: awesome. This is truly transformative. I'll be signing up shortly.
- tlrobinson 13y ago
  Agree 100% about passive vs. active data gathering. I can't even remember to charge/wear a Fitbit/FuelBand/Up/whatever every day, so I'm looking forward to the apps iPhone 5S's "motion coprocessor" enables. Beddit looks interesting as well for sleep tracking: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/beddit-automatic-sleep-and-wellness-tracker-turn-your-bed-into-a-smart-bed http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/beddit-automatic-sleep-and... More passive quantified self stuff, please!
  - rdl 13y ago
    I wish there were a passive food-ingestion tracker.
wyck 13y ago
I'm am concerned by this. Specifically with this linked site, Crohns and Colitis are not the same diseases and have different treatments, yet the data is lumped together, this is irresponsible. Secondly the masses are now always right, this can easily fall into a movement of bad advice and skewed product ratings without oversight by the maintainers, actual doctors, and research with peer review. For the record I've done a lot of research on Colitis (peer journals, specialists), there is nothing in the link that provides anything that a doctor isn't going to tell you within the first 5 minutes medication wise. I have had a friend die from a Colitis flare up, and 2 others with severe cases, one of whom is in the hospital right now, to suggest that taking Vitamin-B and not drinking beer will help is to be honest, ridiculous.
- seanahrens 13y ago
  It's an iterative and building process for us to get where we want to go with Crohnology. The start is less scientific, but as we build better software, with larger N, and bring on the involvement (and attract the attention of) more researchers and doctors, things will build their rigor. If you believe in the vision, of gathering patients together to collect and learn from more real-world data points, in concert with oversight by researchers, then the current implementation is, well, just the current implementation to get us to that end goal, of a more engaged, globally-distributed means of learning from patients as they live and treat their disease. Medical science is fundamentally the study of how inputs to a body relate to outputs of the body (in the scope of treating disease). If we can collect a continuity of these data points in the real-world, among a global populous, you have the potential to understand the disease in ways never before possible.
  - carbocation 13y ago
    In medicine we lump UC and Crohn's because they are both inflammatory bowel diseases. I think it's entirely reasonable if you do the same (at least / especially initially).
    - ajuc 13y ago
      I've been diagnosed with UC 10 years ago, only recently doctors changed their diagnosis to Crohn's disease (btw it's called Leśniewski-Crohn disease here). Apparently it's hard to distinguish, and I think it's good to keep them together.
dataisfun 13y ago
Well done Sean!
nulluk 13y ago
With both myself and my partner having Crohns we have found a lot of value it Crohnology and its absolutely an amazing idea, simply for the community thats grown around it. However my single annoyance is all the treatments are display by brand name and over here in the UK medicine is generally never referred to by its brand name, meaning it was extremely difficult to input my past treatments without a lot of googling
moksha_medicine 13y ago
The first thing I thought about was that dating site for people with colostomy bags.
- moksha_medicine 13y ago
  Found it! http://www.ostodate.com/ http://www.ostodate.com/
Major_Grooves 13y ago
Hi Sean! We met in Neu Odessa bar in Berlin earlier this year. I was the "nearly-YC" guy from Scotland. Glad to see you are getting this out there now. Good luck with it!
gametheoretic 13y ago
Sean! I love you! My sister, 14 next month, was diagnosed ~18 months ago with UC. Everything has been such a roller coaster for her, it's been unbearable. On and off this and that medication, etc, etc - after reading through crohnology.com/testimonials, it seems like you guys really get it. :) Do you have any tips on how best to introduce her to the site? You and your team, I glean from your Stanford talk, have made a real commitment to making the site as friendly as possible (not in the usual "even dumb users will get it" guruspeak sense, but actually friendly - you know, in the "friend" sense). So let me lean on you. Right now, this month and last, is/has been such a critical time for her, medically and, due to the nature of the illness, personally. She's inherently super shy, so it took her a long time to open up with her first doctor and start moving forward-- but he moved recently, and the new doc, well, just ain't working out... But the thing is - and this is why I'm so fucking happy you've made Crohnology! :) - she's also a very bright girl who knows the ins and outs of the treatments she's going through. (And she does the social thing online, has 50 apps on her phone, yada yada - picking up functionality will be a non-issue.) So you see how, shy girl + a personal medical issue + C.com = 8 birds with one stone for her. My single (hopefully ignorant) worry is that my sister, being 13 and shy, will come on the site and think, 'This isn't my crowd.' Or something to that effect. Please, please, please, tell me I'm being a big, dumb idiot and why, or just point me somewhere that might be a good first link for her to visit, or... anything! I know from your vids you've thought about this stuff in and out! Eternally Grateful, Mike P.S. - Commented here rather than on your site because I wasn't sure what the policy on the undiagnosed barging in on the community was. Given the personal nature of things, there's definitely an advantage to keeping things "members only." That said, if you feel this discussion is better had in say, the comments section of a post on C.com/blog, I'm happy to sign up and repost over there. :)
Serow225 13y ago
This looks awesome, I'm forwarding it to my mother who has Crohn's! Thanks :)
csmatt 13y ago
This reminds me of a Ted Talk I saw a while back that really stuck with me. The guy's brother was diagnosed with something and he created a site for others to post and track their treatments and also review others' treatments and outcomes. I tried searching for it but can't find it. Love the idea! It's nice to see that YC gives these niche greater good startups a chance.
juskrey 13y ago
Nice picture! 4:15a "I was in pain level 8" 12:30p "I ate hamburger and fries" Seriously, is it really a disease or a sucker game?
JoelAnair 13y ago
Seems like a good place to shoot the shit.
HillRat 13y ago
Nice concept; I'm lucky that I've (knock on wood) been in remission for the past few years, but I nearly died of the damned thing thanks to a series of misdiagnoses. Luckily, my (then-future) father-in-law has UC, so my wife was able to recognize my symptoms as an autoimmune condition and prompt me to get more effective help. Though more info is out there now, at the time everything I learned about Crohn's/UC came from medical textbooks and journals, which is not exactly a scalable way to find out about your life-threatening illness. Something like this definitely has the potential to bring a lot of value to people who are suffering. Thanks for bringing it to life!

83 points by seanahrens 13y ago

frio 13y ago

I suffer from UC, and a cavalcade of related illnesses. I honestly believe that tools like this are the future. Particularly for me, I've noticed one of the problems with long term, chronic illness, is that you lose perspective -- an hour in the bog might seem like you're doing better than yesterday (and after 2 years, yesterday is "normal"), but for a normal person would imply it's perhaps time to see a doctor. I've hence come to rely quite closely on quantified self type stuff -- tracking how I'm doing on observable, concrete metrics -- so that I can see from a rational perspective that I've crossed a line. I've been building tooling in my spare time to give me d3 graphs and whatnot of my health, rather than server metrics. I believe that kind of passive data gathering (active's no good, because people forget, lie, etc.) is going to become crucial for monitoring health, preventing illness, and improving patient outcomes. Which is a long way of saying: awesome. This is truly transformative. I'll be signing up shortly.

tlrobinson 13y ago
Agree 100% about passive vs. active data gathering. I can't even remember to charge/wear a Fitbit/FuelBand/Up/whatever every day, so I'm looking forward to the apps iPhone 5S's "motion coprocessor" enables. Beddit looks interesting as well for sleep tracking: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/beddit-automatic-sleep-and-wellness-tracker-turn-your-bed-into-a-smart-bed http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/beddit-automatic-sleep-and... More passive quantified self stuff, please!
- rdl 13y ago
  I wish there were a passive food-ingestion tracker.

wyck 13y ago

I'm am concerned by this. Specifically with this linked site, Crohns and Colitis are not the same diseases and have different treatments, yet the data is lumped together, this is irresponsible. Secondly the masses are now always right, this can easily fall into a movement of bad advice and skewed product ratings without oversight by the maintainers, actual doctors, and research with peer review. For the record I've done a lot of research on Colitis (peer journals, specialists), there is nothing in the link that provides anything that a doctor isn't going to tell you within the first 5 minutes medication wise. I have had a friend die from a Colitis flare up, and 2 others with severe cases, one of whom is in the hospital right now, to suggest that taking Vitamin-B and not drinking beer will help is to be honest, ridiculous.

seanahrens 13y ago
It's an iterative and building process for us to get where we want to go with Crohnology. The start is less scientific, but as we build better software, with larger N, and bring on the involvement (and attract the attention of) more researchers and doctors, things will build their rigor. If you believe in the vision, of gathering patients together to collect and learn from more real-world data points, in concert with oversight by researchers, then the current implementation is, well, just the current implementation to get us to that end goal, of a more engaged, globally-distributed means of learning from patients as they live and treat their disease. Medical science is fundamentally the study of how inputs to a body relate to outputs of the body (in the scope of treating disease). If we can collect a continuity of these data points in the real-world, among a global populous, you have the potential to understand the disease in ways never before possible.
- carbocation 13y ago
  In medicine we lump UC and Crohn's because they are both inflammatory bowel diseases. I think it's entirely reasonable if you do the same (at least / especially initially).
  - ajuc 13y ago
    I've been diagnosed with UC 10 years ago, only recently doctors changed their diagnosis to Crohn's disease (btw it's called Leśniewski-Crohn disease here). Apparently it's hard to distinguish, and I think it's good to keep them together.

dataisfun 13y ago

Well done Sean!

nulluk 13y ago

With both myself and my partner having Crohns we have found a lot of value it Crohnology and its absolutely an amazing idea, simply for the community thats grown around it. However my single annoyance is all the treatments are display by brand name and over here in the UK medicine is generally never referred to by its brand name, meaning it was extremely difficult to input my past treatments without a lot of googling

moksha_medicine 13y ago

The first thing I thought about was that dating site for people with colostomy bags.

moksha_medicine 13y ago
Found it! http://www.ostodate.com/ http://www.ostodate.com/

Major_Grooves 13y ago

Hi Sean! We met in Neu Odessa bar in Berlin earlier this year. I was the "nearly-YC" guy from Scotland. Glad to see you are getting this out there now. Good luck with it!

gametheoretic 13y ago

Sean! I love you! My sister, 14 next month, was diagnosed ~18 months ago with UC. Everything has been such a roller coaster for her, it's been unbearable. On and off this and that medication, etc, etc - after reading through crohnology.com/testimonials, it seems like you guys really get it. :) Do you have any tips on how best to introduce her to the site? You and your team, I glean from your Stanford talk, have made a real commitment to making the site as friendly as possible (not in the usual "even dumb users will get it" guruspeak sense, but actually friendly - you know, in the "friend" sense). So let me lean on you. Right now, this month and last, is/has been such a critical time for her, medically and, due to the nature of the illness, personally. She's inherently super shy, so it took her a long time to open up with her first doctor and start moving forward-- but he moved recently, and the new doc, well, just ain't working out... But the thing is - and this is why I'm so fucking happy you've made Crohnology! :) - she's also a very bright girl who knows the ins and outs of the treatments she's going through. (And she does the social thing online, has 50 apps on her phone, yada yada - picking up functionality will be a non-issue.) So you see how, shy girl + a personal medical issue + C.com = 8 birds with one stone for her. My single (hopefully ignorant) worry is that my sister, being 13 and shy, will come on the site and think, 'This isn't my crowd.' Or something to that effect. Please, please, please, tell me I'm being a big, dumb idiot and why, or just point me somewhere that might be a good first link for her to visit, or... anything! I know from your vids you've thought about this stuff in and out! Eternally Grateful, Mike P.S. - Commented here rather than on your site because I wasn't sure what the policy on the undiagnosed barging in on the community was. Given the personal nature of things, there's definitely an advantage to keeping things "members only." That said, if you feel this discussion is better had in say, the comments section of a post on C.com/blog, I'm happy to sign up and repost over there. :)

Serow225 13y ago

This looks awesome, I'm forwarding it to my mother who has Crohn's! Thanks :)

csmatt 13y ago

This reminds me of a Ted Talk I saw a while back that really stuck with me. The guy's brother was diagnosed with something and he created a site for others to post and track their treatments and also review others' treatments and outcomes. I tried searching for it but can't find it. Love the idea! It's nice to see that YC gives these niche greater good startups a chance.

juskrey 13y ago

Nice picture! 4:15a "I was in pain level 8" 12:30p "I ate hamburger and fries" Seriously, is it really a disease or a sucker game?

JoelAnair 13y ago

Seems like a good place to shoot the shit.

HillRat 13y ago

Nice concept; I'm lucky that I've (knock on wood) been in remission for the past few years, but I nearly died of the damned thing thanks to a series of misdiagnoses. Luckily, my (then-future) father-in-law has UC, so my wife was able to recognize my symptoms as an autoimmune condition and prompt me to get more effective help. Though more info is out there now, at the time everything I learned about Crohn's/UC came from medical textbooks and journals, which is not exactly a scalable way to find out about your life-threatening illness. Something like this definitely has the potential to bring a lot of value to people who are suffering. Thanks for bringing it to life!