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Neckties have always struck me as anachronistic, even sexist. What item of women's clothing has been around for 100 years and is still regularly worn without mo

by seldo 17y ago

Neckties have always struck me as anachronistic, even sexist. What item of women's clothing has been around for 100 years and is still regularly worn without modification? Especially one that serves no functional purpose? Why are men still expected to wear fashion designed literally centuries ago? I feel the same applies to suits, but people who (unlike me) actually wear suits assure me the designs change frequently in ways that are apparently non-obvious. All I know is those guys on 50s newsreels appear to be wearing the same thing the guys downtown are wearing today, and that's not true of basically any other popular item of clothing I can think of (hats? maybe?).

amichail 17y ago
There are various levels of encouraging conformity. The necktie is by far the worst in Western culture. This is followed by formal attire. It's all a way to keep employees in line, following orders without question.
jerf 17y ago
I don't like ties either... but I don't like them because they are uncomfortable. In the right place, they still look good, I just don't care to sacrifice myself to look that good. Suits live on because they can make anyone look good and can make a lot of people look stunning. You do want to avoid the spate of incredibly ugly suits from around the 70s and 80s (which my father still wears, bleh) made from material that would look best upholstering a couch, but otherwise, they've lasted for reason. That said, I have one suit and I've worn it once in 10 years. (To a series of 2001 computer science job fairs. Which is to say, "waste of money".) But I have to admit I do look relatively good in it.
- JimmyL 17y ago
  If you think your tie is uncomfortable, it's likely that the real culprit is a too-small shirt and an improperly-tied knot. When the two of those things are done right, you shouldn't even notice that you're wearing a tie.
dminor 17y ago
>Neckties have always struck me as anachronistic, even sexist. What item of women's clothing has been around for 100 years and is still regularly worn without modification? Especially one that serves no functional purpose? High heels strike me as much worse than ties.
- jimfl 17y ago
  If a necktie did for my head (or pects) what heels do for the calves, I'd occasionally wear one.

by seldo 17y ago

amichail 17y ago

There are various levels of encouraging conformity. The necktie is by far the worst in Western culture. This is followed by formal attire. It's all a way to keep employees in line, following orders without question.

jerf 17y ago

I don't like ties either... but I don't like them because they are uncomfortable. In the right place, they still look good, I just don't care to sacrifice myself to look that good. Suits live on because they can make anyone look good and can make a lot of people look stunning. You do want to avoid the spate of incredibly ugly suits from around the 70s and 80s (which my father still wears, bleh) made from material that would look best upholstering a couch, but otherwise, they've lasted for reason. That said, I have one suit and I've worn it once in 10 years. (To a series of 2001 computer science job fairs. Which is to say, "waste of money".) But I have to admit I do look relatively good in it.

JimmyL 17y ago
If you think your tie is uncomfortable, it's likely that the real culprit is a too-small shirt and an improperly-tied knot. When the two of those things are done right, you shouldn't even notice that you're wearing a tie.

dminor 17y ago

>Neckties have always struck me as anachronistic, even sexist. What item of women's clothing has been around for 100 years and is still regularly worn without modification? Especially one that serves no functional purpose? High heels strike me as much worse than ties.

jimfl 17y ago
If a necktie did for my head (or pects) what heels do for the calves, I'd occasionally wear one.