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Really? The bug first class cabins?

Blahah 13y ago
yes: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A5-2001-0264+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//... Search for 'Air France'. There's a whole list of industrial espionage incidents there, given as evidence to the European parliament.
- rdl 13y ago
  Industrial espionage and political spying (domestically) are what bother me the most. I actually don't mind gov/mil vs. gov/mil spying (except to the extent it is a waste of resources which should be spent on more productive things, like environmental remediation, tech development, education, debt, etc.) -- it's gov vs. people which is the problem.
rdl 13y ago
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-spy-who-loved-me-and-my-laptop-1321969.html http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-spy-who-loved-me... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=860&dat=19950320&id=7V5UAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F48DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4545,2982157 http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=860&dat=19950320&id=7V... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-647100.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-647100.html
- chrischen 13y ago
  "Every computer emits a frequency that can be picked up by our equipment and that allows us to read it by locking on to it manually," a senior executive of the firm told the Independent. "It's a bit hit and miss at the moment, but it can be done and the technology is improving all the time." What???
  - rdl 13y ago
    I assume they were referring to TEMPEST. Basically every piece of electronic equipment has unintentional radiation. It's super-easy to read keyboard input even from a wired keyboard, or to read from a screen (CRT or LCD) based on the pattern, with about $50k (in 1999) of RF equipment -- could do it in the hundreds or thousands now. Reading from a CPU is harder, but it can be done, especially if you only need to recover one thing (like a key), can force the processor to load the key on demand (like, sending a packet which needs to be decrypted), can record a lot of samples, and know the structure of the software and equipment which is processing it (like if it is a standard phone). Cryptography Research (Paul Kocher, aka one of the smartest people in security who doesn't work at NSA) and his team have done this for years -- live demo of the attack in ~10 minutes at various conferences.

yes: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+REPORT+A5-2001-0264+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//... Search for 'Air France'. There's a whole list of industrial espionage incidents there, given as evidence to the European parliament.

rdl 13y ago
Industrial espionage and political spying (domestically) are what bother me the most. I actually don't mind gov/mil vs. gov/mil spying (except to the extent it is a waste of resources which should be spent on more productive things, like environmental remediation, tech development, education, debt, etc.) -- it's gov vs. people which is the problem.

rdl 13y ago

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-spy-who-loved-me-and-my-laptop-1321969.html http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-spy-who-loved-me... http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=860&dat=19950320&id=7V5UAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F48DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4545,2982157 http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=860&dat=19950320&id=7V... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-647100.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-647100.html

chrischen 13y ago
"Every computer emits a frequency that can be picked up by our equipment and that allows us to read it by locking on to it manually," a senior executive of the firm told the Independent. "It's a bit hit and miss at the moment, but it can be done and the technology is improving all the time." What???
- rdl 13y ago
  I assume they were referring to TEMPEST. Basically every piece of electronic equipment has unintentional radiation. It's super-easy to read keyboard input even from a wired keyboard, or to read from a screen (CRT or LCD) based on the pattern, with about $50k (in 1999) of RF equipment -- could do it in the hundreds or thousands now. Reading from a CPU is harder, but it can be done, especially if you only need to recover one thing (like a key), can force the processor to load the key on demand (like, sending a packet which needs to be decrypted), can record a lot of samples, and know the structure of the software and equipment which is processing it (like if it is a standard phone). Cryptography Research (Paul Kocher, aka one of the smartest people in security who doesn't work at NSA) and his team have done this for years -- live demo of the attack in ~10 minutes at various conferences.