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BTW, thus far it seems that the Washington Post and USA Today are the only American mainstream sources touching this story: http://www.google.com/#q=israel+nsa

by ferdo 13y ago

BTW, thus far it seems that the Washington Post and USA Today are the only American mainstream sources touching this story: http://www.google.com/#q=israel+nsa&tbm=nws&tbs=sbd:1 http://www.google.com/#q=israel+nsa&tbm=nws&tbs=sbd:1

Aloisius 13y ago
You know it takes more than an a few hours for the mainstream press to pick up a story. Unless they can license the original article, they either have to reference the original one and write a also-ran article or they have to call sources themselves. As of now, the LA times, Mother Jones and Salon have it. I imagine by tomorrow, it'll hit physical papers.
- ferdo 13y ago
  I've seen urgent stories hit the mainstream in minutes. The lack of urgency on the part of the mainstream wrt this story is the disturbing part.
  - obvious1 13y ago
    But it is not an "urgent" story per se. Journalists have contacts of their own. Newspapers have published prior information that they'll include in the story. Some places value comprehension and coverage.
    - ferdo 13y ago
      > But it is not an "urgent" story per se. It's urgent to a lot of Americans, judging by the non-mainstream legs this story has.
      - azernik 13y ago
        Urgent != important. Urgent means time-sensitive. Quickly developing events hit the mainstream outlets quite quickly, but with stories about newly-revealed but long-term stuff like this they can usually afford to wait a few days to get the story polished.
      - threeseed 13y ago
        It's not urgent to a lot of Americans just you. Will the news change depending on if it's reported today, tomorrow or next way ? No ? Then it's NOT urgent.
        ferdo 13y ago
        > It's not urgent to a lot of Americans just you. OT, but a good rule to follow in civil public discussion is avoid imputing motive or desire on the part of the person you're conversing with. IOW, avoid making it personal if you don't want to appear rude or uncivil.
skue 13y ago
Sadly, the largest American media sources are still ignoring the story almost a day later. I searched CNN, NBC News, and Fox News - nothing. At least most of the tech news sites picked up the story.
graedus 13y ago
Yeah, the number one autocomplete for 'nsa' in the nytimes search box is 'nsa israel', which is funny because they still haven't published anything on it.

by ferdo 13y ago

Aloisius 13y ago

You know it takes more than an a few hours for the mainstream press to pick up a story. Unless they can license the original article, they either have to reference the original one and write a also-ran article or they have to call sources themselves. As of now, the LA times, Mother Jones and Salon have it. I imagine by tomorrow, it'll hit physical papers.

ferdo 13y ago
I've seen urgent stories hit the mainstream in minutes. The lack of urgency on the part of the mainstream wrt this story is the disturbing part.
- obvious1 13y ago
  But it is not an "urgent" story per se. Journalists have contacts of their own. Newspapers have published prior information that they'll include in the story. Some places value comprehension and coverage.
  - ferdo 13y ago
    > But it is not an "urgent" story per se. It's urgent to a lot of Americans, judging by the non-mainstream legs this story has.
    - azernik 13y ago
      Urgent != important. Urgent means time-sensitive. Quickly developing events hit the mainstream outlets quite quickly, but with stories about newly-revealed but long-term stuff like this they can usually afford to wait a few days to get the story polished.
    - threeseed 13y ago
      It's not urgent to a lot of Americans just you. Will the news change depending on if it's reported today, tomorrow or next way ? No ? Then it's NOT urgent.
      - ferdo 13y ago
        > It's not urgent to a lot of Americans just you. OT, but a good rule to follow in civil public discussion is avoid imputing motive or desire on the part of the person you're conversing with. IOW, avoid making it personal if you don't want to appear rude or uncivil.

skue 13y ago

Sadly, the largest American media sources are still ignoring the story almost a day later. I searched CNN, NBC News, and Fox News - nothing. At least most of the tech news sites picked up the story.

graedus 13y ago

Yeah, the number one autocomplete for 'nsa' in the nytimes search box is 'nsa israel', which is funny because they still haven't published anything on it.