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Remembering Danny Lewin

50 points by danvideo 13y ago

wehadfun 13y ago
I am really disappointed in the lack of news we get about Sept 11 now.
- hvs 13y ago
  What "lack of news"? And about what? There are memorials all day. What is there to be disappointed about?
  - wehadfun 13y ago
    Go to yahoo.com, huffingtonpost.com, you have to search for an article talking about it.
    - mhurron 13y ago
      Good. I'm sick of being bombarded with it. I get it, I'm supposed to be scared about a single event that occurred 12 years ago and give up all my rights because of it. I don't need to have it screamed in my face all the time.
    - hvs 13y ago
      Look, it was a terrible event in our history. But, 1) it happened 12 years ago (yes, I was a working adult back then, I remember exactly what I was doing and mourned with the rest of the country), at some point you stop pouring salt in a wound, and 2) if anything, America's response to 9/11 has completely squandered any rightful outrage we had over it. Look at what happened in response to 9/11 -- everything is "terrorism", blanket spying on Americans, indefinite detention, war against "terrorism"?? -- and all I can say is that the terrorists achieved at least partially what they were going for. David Foster Wallace said it best: ...what if we chose to accept the fact that every few years, despite all reasonable precautions, some hundreds or thousands of us may die in the sort of ghastly terrorist attack that a democratic republic cannot 100-percent protect itself from without subverting the very principles that make it worth protecting? Is this thought experiment monstrous? Would it be monstrous to refer to the 40,000-plus domestic highway deaths we accept each year because the mobility and autonomy of the car are evidently worth that high price? Is monstrousness why no serious public figure now will speak of the delusory trade-off of liberty for safety that Ben Franklin warned about more than 200 years ago? What exactly has changed between Franklin’s time and ours? Why now can we not have a serious national conversation about sacrifice, the inevitability of sacrifice—either of (a) some portion of safety or (b) some portion of the rights and protections that make the American idea so incalculably precious? http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-asking/306288/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-ask...
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canistr 13y ago
I respect that we should remember the victims and particularly those related to the tech industry on HN, but this article is difficult to read based on how often the author has to over-emphasize Lewin's achievements.
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- andrewflnr 13y ago
  How the heck did they get a gun on the plane? Even before 9/11 that should have been difficult to impossible.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    Even after 9/11, with all the screening, the TSA stop about 20 to 30 guns every week. I don't know how many they miss. (http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/08/tsa-week-in-review-44-firearms.html http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/08/tsa-week-in-review-44-firearms.h...) They also find grenades. While most of them are inert or replica some of them are live. I imagine that pre 911 things were easier.
- nawitus 13y ago
  This[1] article claims that the FAA memo about the gun was incorrect. 1. http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12940/ http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12940/
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- bedhead 13y ago
  Take your inane conspiracy theories someplace else. I'd like to say more derogatory things but I'll refrain.
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- rdl 13y ago
  People get details wrong all the time in eyewitness reports. The people who fly on BOS-LAX in first class tend to be "important". Similarly the NYC-LAX and NYC-LON flights. DCA even more so. I mean, we saw a very high level Samsung exec as one of the first to post photos in the flight which crashed at SFO recently; not unusual at all. The quality of intelligence you could get by monitoring first class is why Air France (well, French intelligence) actually installed microphones in the headrests of some of their fleet. Probably wouldn't do this for Orlando to Nashville flights in coach.
abracar 13y ago
I found the article Slate published today more interesting http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/danny_lewin_the_first_victim_on_9_11_and_an_architect_of_the_internet.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/dan... (was written by the author of Lewin's bio)

50 points by danvideo 13y ago

wehadfun 13y ago

I am really disappointed in the lack of news we get about Sept 11 now.

hvs 13y ago
What "lack of news"? And about what? There are memorials all day. What is there to be disappointed about?
- wehadfun 13y ago
  Go to yahoo.com, huffingtonpost.com, you have to search for an article talking about it.
  - mhurron 13y ago
    Good. I'm sick of being bombarded with it. I get it, I'm supposed to be scared about a single event that occurred 12 years ago and give up all my rights because of it. I don't need to have it screamed in my face all the time.
  - hvs 13y ago
    Look, it was a terrible event in our history. But, 1) it happened 12 years ago (yes, I was a working adult back then, I remember exactly what I was doing and mourned with the rest of the country), at some point you stop pouring salt in a wound, and 2) if anything, America's response to 9/11 has completely squandered any rightful outrage we had over it. Look at what happened in response to 9/11 -- everything is "terrorism", blanket spying on Americans, indefinite detention, war against "terrorism"?? -- and all I can say is that the terrorists achieved at least partially what they were going for. David Foster Wallace said it best: ...what if we chose to accept the fact that every few years, despite all reasonable precautions, some hundreds or thousands of us may die in the sort of ghastly terrorist attack that a democratic republic cannot 100-percent protect itself from without subverting the very principles that make it worth protecting? Is this thought experiment monstrous? Would it be monstrous to refer to the 40,000-plus domestic highway deaths we accept each year because the mobility and autonomy of the car are evidently worth that high price? Is monstrousness why no serious public figure now will speak of the delusory trade-off of liberty for safety that Ben Franklin warned about more than 200 years ago? What exactly has changed between Franklin’s time and ours? Why now can we not have a serious national conversation about sacrifice, the inevitability of sacrifice—either of (a) some portion of safety or (b) some portion of the rights and protections that make the American idea so incalculably precious? http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-asking/306288/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-ask...
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canistr 13y ago

I respect that we should remember the victims and particularly those related to the tech industry on HN, but this article is difficult to read based on how often the author has to over-emphasize Lewin's achievements.

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andrewflnr 13y ago
How the heck did they get a gun on the plane? Even before 9/11 that should have been difficult to impossible.
- DanBC 13y ago
  Even after 9/11, with all the screening, the TSA stop about 20 to 30 guns every week. I don't know how many they miss. (http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/08/tsa-week-in-review-44-firearms.html http://blog.tsa.gov/2013/08/tsa-week-in-review-44-firearms.h...) They also find grenades. While most of them are inert or replica some of them are live. I imagine that pre 911 things were easier.
nawitus 13y ago
This[1] article claims that the FAA memo about the gun was incorrect. 1. http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12940/ http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12940/
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bedhead 13y ago
Take your inane conspiracy theories someplace else. I'd like to say more derogatory things but I'll refrain.
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rdl 13y ago
People get details wrong all the time in eyewitness reports. The people who fly on BOS-LAX in first class tend to be "important". Similarly the NYC-LAX and NYC-LON flights. DCA even more so. I mean, we saw a very high level Samsung exec as one of the first to post photos in the flight which crashed at SFO recently; not unusual at all. The quality of intelligence you could get by monitoring first class is why Air France (well, French intelligence) actually installed microphones in the headrests of some of their fleet. Probably wouldn't do this for Orlando to Nashville flights in coach.

abracar 13y ago

I found the article Slate published today more interesting http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/danny_lewin_the_first_victim_on_9_11_and_an_architect_of_the_internet.html http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history/2013/09/dan... (was written by the author of Lewin's bio)