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> How can any government accept a situation where communications are so secure that none of their agencies can break it? The way they accept every other fact o

> How can any government accept a situation where communications are so secure that none of their agencies can break it? The way they accept every other fact of life that they cannot change. The genie is out of the bottle now. Strong encryption exists; government cannot break it, and "bad actors" will use it. Law enforcement do need to investigate crime, but they need to do it in the real world not in the world of make believe. If that means they have to go back to older, harder investigative methods then life will go on. The "alternative" that our governments seem to have chosen is unconscionable... They break their own laws, forsake their own principles and corral their own people into virtual concentration camps. In their desperation they have seized total control, and then "restrained themselves" to simulate the capabilities they might have had in the good old days. Their self-restraint is admirable, but our societies are founded on law and democracy, not built on trust in the good natures of absolute rulers.

diydsp 13y ago
I like your thoughts because they pay respect to the fact that (current) governments are NOT foundationally correct entities. They are socially-constructed approximations of justice which aid our human existence, but are not fundamentally infallible as, say, the laws of physics. Government should be a last-ditch effort to maintain the long-term survivability of our species.... However, so many people (cough Apple) treat laws as a list of the most disrespectful circumstances and violent actions they can do without repercussions. We can deny the existence of strong crypto no more than we can deny the existence of Plutonium. Any government that can't regulate around that has no justification for our support and any population that can't survive the gifts of Prometheus has no justification for survival. If we're to levitate above the point we're at now (compromised security, virtual concentration camps, etc.), we've got to develop our culture such that there is no incentive to use strong crypto for gain. We've got to stop pushing ourselves into such dense living quarters. We've got to further lower our reproduction rate. We've got to stop buying into celebrity and corporate culture....

diydsp 13y ago

I like your thoughts because they pay respect to the fact that (current) governments are NOT foundationally correct entities. They are socially-constructed approximations of justice which aid our human existence, but are not fundamentally infallible as, say, the laws of physics. Government should be a last-ditch effort to maintain the long-term survivability of our species.... However, so many people (cough Apple) treat laws as a list of the most disrespectful circumstances and violent actions they can do without repercussions. We can deny the existence of strong crypto no more than we can deny the existence of Plutonium. Any government that can't regulate around that has no justification for our support and any population that can't survive the gifts of Prometheus has no justification for survival. If we're to levitate above the point we're at now (compromised security, virtual concentration camps, etc.), we've got to develop our culture such that there is no incentive to use strong crypto for gain. We've got to stop pushing ourselves into such dense living quarters. We've got to further lower our reproduction rate. We've got to stop buying into celebrity and corporate culture....