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There's always a STUPID comment made on every site, any given moment and at any given second of the day.. The prize goes to... "Confusion"... the name says it a

• Confusion 17y ago
  Are you even following the discussion? Are 'African Americans' such a touchy subject that your capacity to comprehend what is being said is failing you when someone mentions them as being 'a social and economic underclass'? That is not a judgment or moral statement about them: it is simply a factual statement about their predicament. It is about what is the state of affairs in the world. Let me spell this exchange out for you: - Several comments applaud the US for allowing immigrants to succeed. - I point out that it's not the US, it's the OP. He could have succeeded in all of western civilization, as immigrants do. - Gaius thinks only the US, UK and Canada are 'countries with long traditions of immigrants both assimilating and contributing to their culture'. He especially thinks Turks in Germany and Moroccans in France are 'an economic and social underclass'. - I point out that this has to do with historical factors: there are many Moroccans in France, because it was a French colony for a long time. You could practically consider those Maroccans French. I point out that for those reasons, they are more comparable to African Americans, who also happen to be 'an economic and social underclass' (if that term applies to Moroccans in France, it applies to African Americans in the US. I'm going along with the discussion here, not arguing about a term I may not like). On the other hand, Algerians are well integrated in French society, as are Turks in Germany. - Someone completely misses the point, because he mentions something that gaius himself had already covered as not being a good argument. (Perhaps it was only a joke?) - I rehash the original point Now if you would please care to explain what is stupid about that?
  • billm 17y ago
    Here are the issues with your points 1) Perhaps it was only a joke If you want to be taken seriously this doesn't work when addressing an often times sensitive topic .. Communication 101. 2) You stated ... I point out that this has to do with historical factors: there are many Moroccans in France, because it was a French colony for a long time. You could practically consider those Maroccans French. A Moroccan would never consider themselves french. (if your interested in references no problem) Thats calling an Assyrian and Iraqi or white or jewish.. 3) You quoted.. African Americans are as much 'an economic and social underclass' in the US as Moroccans are in France. This is where you quoted Gaius then added the note above.. Don't hide behind a quote from someone else then add your own statement and then attempt to pass it off as the original statement. 4) You stated.. It is about what is the state of affairs in the world How does this beginning comment and the subsequent comments thereafter address the question of the original author? I see a point possibly that he can make it regardless of his socio-economic status and that others has.. just say it.. keep it simple your going into dangerous territory otherwise... you message gets vague.. and losses its point and got clouded with your own statement which was pass off as a quote by Gaius..
  • menloparkbum 17y ago
    Turks born in Germany weren't even legal citizens until 2000. "Well integrated" is not accurate. Algerians aren't well integrated into French society, either. Your points are stupid because they are off topic and aren't correct. You're just making shit up.
    • Confusion 17y ago
      If someone is making shit up, it's you. For instance, foreigners born in Germany have always been legal citizens, if they chose to accept the German citizenship offered to them.
• mistermann 17y ago
  Actually, you are incorrect. Chinese, on average, are massively disproportionately (as compared to other immigrants) economically successful wherever they migrate to. Maybe you meant to say there is always an ironic comment made on every website?? lol