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-Not an answer- Why do you want it to be web-based? Any particular reason? I think there are certain things for which a browser is not a good application hosti

-Not an answer- Why do you want it to be web-based? Any particular reason? I think there are certain things for which a browser is not a good application hosting platform. As an experienced web developer, I can imagine the amount of pain it will take to create a pixel based image editor. Additionally, there are TONS of image editors available (free, commercial) for Win, Mac, Linux. I am sure you can find a program which you like.

utku_karatas 17y ago
I subscribed to iconfu.com the minute I saw it because not only it allowed me to edit the icons but it also laid tons of predesigned icon sets right in front of me (be it OS or Creative Commons licensed). Digging for all those icon sets alone would take a considerable amount of my time. And community seems to be tagging all those icons so it's very easy to search. I'm not aware of any desktop app providing the help of community like this. Thanks to noodle for the heads up and kudos to the iconfu team.
steffanwilliams 17y ago
Agreed, a web based one makes very little sense. For a desktop solution, I'd recommend Pixen. http://opensword.org/Pixen/ http://opensword.org/Pixen/
noodle 17y ago
icons are really simple. for most people, making an icon will take less time than the download & installation of any software available.
- solutionyogi 17y ago
  Really? What kind of icons are you talking about? From the article ( http://simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/23/anatomy.html http://simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/23/anatomy.html ) written by a professional, I understood that creating an icon is a difficult process and you need a specialized tool. [e.g. You need to have two views - Zoomed in, Zoomed out] And I doubt you can create an icon in less than 30 seconds. [Total time taken to download Paint.NET from http://www.dotpdn.com/files/Paint.NET.3.36.zip http://www.dotpdn.com/files/Paint.NET.3.36.zip and install.]
  - noodle 17y ago
    seriously? i was at least being a little tongue-in-cheek. very reminiscent of the recent "text editor vs IDE" thread. most people don't need a fully featured editor to create a favicon or something similar and will only spend a few minutes on it, tops. for professionals who are getting paid to produce high quality work, of course they would use a higher quality product.
    - solutionyogi 17y ago
      Actually, 'most people' don't create their own icons. I have been in software industry for 10 years and I have yet to have a need to create an icon. If you don't have .NET, then try this: http://icofx.ro/files/icofxsetup.exe http://icofx.ro/files/icofxsetup.exe
      - noodle 17y ago
        i make a handful of favicons a year for sites and apps. most of the available software options are either clunky or too much for a small job. i know i'm not alone, as i've talked to others about this -- i would use an online editor and maybe pay a few bucks for it. i think its interesting that you admit to having not made an icon ever, but you're trying to convince me that i'm wrong about my (admitted limited and not professional-grade, but valid nonetheless) experiences based on a blog post you read. /shrug
        solutionyogi 17y ago
        I do a lot of image editing and I am proficient with Photoshop. Based on my image editing experience, I can imagine how difficult icon editing can be. And a buck or two for a web-based icon editing app? Are you willing to pay buck or two per use OR for perpetual use?
        noodle 17y ago
        a reasonable, usable favicon is a lot easier than i think you think it is. i don't think that pg poured hours into this: http://ycombinator.com/favicon.ico http://ycombinator.com/favicon.ico buck or two for some sort of perpetual usage.
pg 17y ago
Why use software that requires installation if there's software that doesn't?
- solutionyogi 17y ago
  Amount of time required to install an icon editor program < Finding a web based icon editor application* [Ignoring the actual time needed to use the application and create the icon. I can guess that a native application will further reduce this time.] * As I wrote earlier, because of browser limitations, there are very few web applications geared towards icon editing/image editing.
- ankhmoop 17y ago
  Off the top of my head: - You generally own the license to the installed software in perpetuity. Your application source art will always be readable. - It will integrate better with your desktop user experience. Printing, drag-and-drop, copy/paste of complex data, input devices (wacom tablets), etc.

utku_karatas 17y ago

I subscribed to iconfu.com the minute I saw it because not only it allowed me to edit the icons but it also laid tons of predesigned icon sets right in front of me (be it OS or Creative Commons licensed). Digging for all those icon sets alone would take a considerable amount of my time. And community seems to be tagging all those icons so it's very easy to search. I'm not aware of any desktop app providing the help of community like this. Thanks to noodle for the heads up and kudos to the iconfu team.

steffanwilliams 17y ago

Agreed, a web based one makes very little sense. For a desktop solution, I'd recommend Pixen. http://opensword.org/Pixen/ http://opensword.org/Pixen/

noodle 17y ago

icons are really simple. for most people, making an icon will take less time than the download & installation of any software available.

solutionyogi 17y ago
Really? What kind of icons are you talking about? From the article ( http://simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/23/anatomy.html http://simplebits.com/notebook/2004/08/23/anatomy.html ) written by a professional, I understood that creating an icon is a difficult process and you need a specialized tool. [e.g. You need to have two views - Zoomed in, Zoomed out] And I doubt you can create an icon in less than 30 seconds. [Total time taken to download Paint.NET from http://www.dotpdn.com/files/Paint.NET.3.36.zip http://www.dotpdn.com/files/Paint.NET.3.36.zip and install.]
- noodle 17y ago
  seriously? i was at least being a little tongue-in-cheek. very reminiscent of the recent "text editor vs IDE" thread. most people don't need a fully featured editor to create a favicon or something similar and will only spend a few minutes on it, tops. for professionals who are getting paid to produce high quality work, of course they would use a higher quality product.
  - solutionyogi 17y ago
    Actually, 'most people' don't create their own icons. I have been in software industry for 10 years and I have yet to have a need to create an icon. If you don't have .NET, then try this: http://icofx.ro/files/icofxsetup.exe http://icofx.ro/files/icofxsetup.exe
    - noodle 17y ago
      i make a handful of favicons a year for sites and apps. most of the available software options are either clunky or too much for a small job. i know i'm not alone, as i've talked to others about this -- i would use an online editor and maybe pay a few bucks for it. i think its interesting that you admit to having not made an icon ever, but you're trying to convince me that i'm wrong about my (admitted limited and not professional-grade, but valid nonetheless) experiences based on a blog post you read. /shrug
      - solutionyogi 17y ago
        I do a lot of image editing and I am proficient with Photoshop. Based on my image editing experience, I can imagine how difficult icon editing can be. And a buck or two for a web-based icon editing app? Are you willing to pay buck or two per use OR for perpetual use?
        noodle 17y ago
        a reasonable, usable favicon is a lot easier than i think you think it is. i don't think that pg poured hours into this: http://ycombinator.com/favicon.ico http://ycombinator.com/favicon.ico buck or two for some sort of perpetual usage.

pg 17y ago

Why use software that requires installation if there's software that doesn't?

solutionyogi 17y ago
Amount of time required to install an icon editor program < Finding a web based icon editor application* [Ignoring the actual time needed to use the application and create the icon. I can guess that a native application will further reduce this time.] * As I wrote earlier, because of browser limitations, there are very few web applications geared towards icon editing/image editing.
ankhmoop 17y ago
Off the top of my head: - You generally own the license to the installed software in perpetuity. Your application source art will always be readable. - It will integrate better with your desktop user experience. Printing, drag-and-drop, copy/paste of complex data, input devices (wacom tablets), etc.