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You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs w

You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

mikeash 13y ago
3 consecutive iPhones? 5, 5C/5S, what's the third?
- aespinoza 13y ago
  4 & 4S had pretty much the same external design. So is the 5 & 5S.
  - mikeash 13y ago
    Yes.... I still don't see what "3 consecutive phones" is referring to. Apple has generally kept the same physical design for two consecutive models before changing it, and that still holds.
    - aespinoza 13y ago
      Yes you are right.. I was mostly considering the iPhone 4, 4S and 5 as 3 different models. But I agree. It is more like 2 (4 & 5). Considering the iPhone 5C is a quite different.
phaus 13y ago
The Gold iPhone actually looks tastefully done. However, I can't imagine even the great Jonny Ive making it out of a meeting with a job after presenting this to Steve Jobs as the future of Apple. http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/13910/LB_8130.jpg http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/139... With this product alone, Apple has lost it's claim to good design. We can also tell, from this hardware release, that Ive's redesigned IOS 7 was intended from the start to match the hideousness of the iPhone 5C as closely as possible. The White iPhone 5C is OK (It's ridiculously expensive though), but the rest of those colors, and especially the cases, are bafflingly ugly. I'm sure Apple will be successful as always, but if the world were just, the 5C would be a bigger flop than Microsoft's Surface RT.
- izietto 13y ago
  To me seems that the Gold iPhone is good for Paris Hilton...
- aespinoza 13y ago
  I definitely think this is going to be a success. I don't actually doubt it. The disappointment is that I usually look to Apple for inspiration, and lately, I don't feel it. I have been looking at other companies. Google and Tesla are increasingly inspiring me more often. Lately, I feel more inspired by Nokia, than Apple, which is depressing to say the least.
unfamiliar 13y ago
An entire new security system centred around a fingerprint scanner is not considered innovative? Give one idea which you'd consider more innovative. Go on. Just one.
- aespinoza 13y ago
  Fingerprint readers have been out for a while for the desktop and hasn't taken off. Some laptops have a sensor as well, and I know few companies that actually use it. I don't see it as an important milestone. But to be fair it is innovative because of the size and form factor. But I expected more from Apple.
nicholassmith 13y ago
Under Jobs Apple released many versions of the MacBook/Pro which had nearly the same external design. I'm not certain Jobs would have loved a gold iPhone, but I can imagine he'd have understood the business reasons for it, and it's not an unattractive device. He was large and in charge when they introduced the flower power iMac after all. Innovation is a difficult thing to quantify, there wasn't likely to be an innovative step on these iPhones anymore than there was an innovative step to occur on the MacBook Air. The product line is now about absolute refinement. What's innovation? Having a 64bit processor in a phone is a new leap, but expected, but a massively improved motion tracker is innovative in it's own way. Apple comes into new market segments/product rethinks on a very stretched out basis, from the iPod to the iPhone was a long period of time, they used that time to develop a product that was 'revolutionary' as it hit the market. They've not been in a hurry before, so why rush now? It wins them nothing, but could cost them everything.
- aespinoza 13y ago
  I agree with you. Like I mentioned in another comment below, it is not that these phones are not going to be successful. They will be. For sure. And I understand Apple is a business. My biggest problem with the latest form Cupertino is that I have not been able to find inspiration from their products. When I am looking for inspiration, Apple is simply not there anymore for me. It might for other people. I guess the feeling that I am looking for when I am talking about "Innovation" is "Awe", "Inspiration", "Excitement". That is not there anymore when looking at Apple products. This doesn't mean that these phone will be less successful, or worse than their previous counterparts. What it does mean, is that I will not be looking to Apple for inspiration in the future. I'll looking more to Google and Tesla.
  - nicholassmith 13y ago
    Out of curiosity what would you say Googles innovative product was recently? In my opinion they're like Apple, they iterate well on existing concepts.
    - aespinoza 13y ago

mikeash 13y ago

3 consecutive iPhones? 5, 5C/5S, what's the third?

aespinoza 13y ago
4 & 4S had pretty much the same external design. So is the 5 & 5S.
- mikeash 13y ago
  Yes.... I still don't see what "3 consecutive phones" is referring to. Apple has generally kept the same physical design for two consecutive models before changing it, and that still holds.
  - aespinoza 13y ago
    Yes you are right.. I was mostly considering the iPhone 4, 4S and 5 as 3 different models. But I agree. It is more like 2 (4 & 5). Considering the iPhone 5C is a quite different.

phaus 13y ago

The Gold iPhone actually looks tastefully done. However, I can't imagine even the great Jonny Ive making it out of a meeting with a job after presenting this to Steve Jobs as the future of Apple. http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/13910/LB_8130.jpg http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/139... With this product alone, Apple has lost it's claim to good design. We can also tell, from this hardware release, that Ive's redesigned IOS 7 was intended from the start to match the hideousness of the iPhone 5C as closely as possible. The White iPhone 5C is OK (It's ridiculously expensive though), but the rest of those colors, and especially the cases, are bafflingly ugly. I'm sure Apple will be successful as always, but if the world were just, the 5C would be a bigger flop than Microsoft's Surface RT.

izietto 13y ago
To me seems that the Gold iPhone is good for Paris Hilton...
aespinoza 13y ago
I definitely think this is going to be a success. I don't actually doubt it. The disappointment is that I usually look to Apple for inspiration, and lately, I don't feel it. I have been looking at other companies. Google and Tesla are increasingly inspiring me more often. Lately, I feel more inspired by Nokia, than Apple, which is depressing to say the least.

unfamiliar 13y ago

An entire new security system centred around a fingerprint scanner is not considered innovative? Give one idea which you'd consider more innovative. Go on. Just one.

aespinoza 13y ago
Fingerprint readers have been out for a while for the desktop and hasn't taken off. Some laptops have a sensor as well, and I know few companies that actually use it. I don't see it as an important milestone. But to be fair it is innovative because of the size and form factor. But I expected more from Apple.

nicholassmith 13y ago

Under Jobs Apple released many versions of the MacBook/Pro which had nearly the same external design. I'm not certain Jobs would have loved a gold iPhone, but I can imagine he'd have understood the business reasons for it, and it's not an unattractive device. He was large and in charge when they introduced the flower power iMac after all. Innovation is a difficult thing to quantify, there wasn't likely to be an innovative step on these iPhones anymore than there was an innovative step to occur on the MacBook Air. The product line is now about absolute refinement. What's innovation? Having a 64bit processor in a phone is a new leap, but expected, but a massively improved motion tracker is innovative in it's own way. Apple comes into new market segments/product rethinks on a very stretched out basis, from the iPod to the iPhone was a long period of time, they used that time to develop a product that was 'revolutionary' as it hit the market. They've not been in a hurry before, so why rush now? It wins them nothing, but could cost them everything.

aespinoza 13y ago
I agree with you. Like I mentioned in another comment below, it is not that these phones are not going to be successful. They will be. For sure. And I understand Apple is a business. My biggest problem with the latest form Cupertino is that I have not been able to find inspiration from their products. When I am looking for inspiration, Apple is simply not there anymore for me. It might for other people. I guess the feeling that I am looking for when I am talking about "Innovation" is "Awe", "Inspiration", "Excitement". That is not there anymore when looking at Apple products. This doesn't mean that these phone will be less successful, or worse than their previous counterparts. What it does mean, is that I will not be looking to Apple for inspiration in the future. I'll looking more to Google and Tesla.
- nicholassmith 13y ago
  Out of curiosity what would you say Googles innovative product was recently? In my opinion they're like Apple, they iterate well on existing concepts.
  - aespinoza 13y ago