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In the company where I work, everything but the IDE is in cloud... We use Google Apps, Trello, Wave (for accounting), Corona SDK (that builds in Corona cloud s

by speeder 13y ago

In the company where I work, everything but the IDE is in cloud... We use Google Apps, Trello, Wave (for accounting), Corona SDK (that builds in Corona cloud servers), Google Drive (previously was Dropbox), Google Docs (we never used any office here, MS, Libre, or anything else), and so on... I am personally against it, but the CEO decided it that way because he did not wanted to bother about IT infrastructure, we are not big enough yet to bother about it, cloud stuff make things much easier.

tommi 13y ago
So, you're not using https://c9.io/ https://c9.io/ yet? ;) Are there any other tools that could fit the description of cloud IDE?
alan_cx 13y ago
Yeah, sure, until some numpty digs up your internet connection cable. Cheaper, I can vaguely accept, but "easier" to me means "lazy". Nothing good comes from easy. But, yes, in reality, I can see how CEO types would be sold on the cloud. I just think its potentially misguided. BTW, IT infrastructure? You are all networked, right? So, whats left? One large ish server? Hardly my idea of "infrastructure", which to me implies something a bit more large and diverse. IMHO, being networked for the internet means you already have infrastructure, ish!!!
- speeder 13y ago
  Right now our office has two workstations, two desks, two chairs, a water filter (not cooler, only a filter, made of clay), paper, pens, two potted plants, and of course, all relevant cables. We don't even have a place to put a server... We already freak out enough fearing people will steal the workstations and test devices! (we are in Brazil, last year there was 20 mass robberies, 90 cops executed, several random murders, and 3 different incidents resulted into homeowners ending in hospital after being shot with military-grade rifles in common robberies)
- bdunbar 13y ago
  > Yeah, sure, until some numpty digs up your internet connection cable. My last employer was not into 'the cloud'. Just a smart manufacturing company, with sites in five countries, two data centers, one on each continent. Which would die in about a day without the internet. Each site could chug along for a while, but without the bits flowing in, and out, coordination gets out of whack and after about three workshifts they'd have no idea what to work on next. Cloud or not, if the internet goes so goes the business. That or they'd ask us to re-install those doggone fax servers we retired in 2007.
- PeterisP 13y ago
  What do you do if some numpty digs up the power cable to your HQ+server site? You can put the servers on generators, but in most companies users still couldn't use them as their office gear would be offline. In any case, if your servers are running but you can't connect to your suppliers and customers - you might as well turn them off, your business likely can't function without connectivity even if you avoid the cloud completely; so avoiding cloud doesn't decrease your risks much. Just buy two or more redundant, reasonably different internet channels - and then prolonged loss of connection is no more common as other major downtime risks such as flooding, fires, etc.

by speeder 13y ago

tommi 13y ago

So, you're not using https://c9.io/ https://c9.io/ yet? ;) Are there any other tools that could fit the description of cloud IDE?

alan_cx 13y ago

Yeah, sure, until some numpty digs up your internet connection cable. Cheaper, I can vaguely accept, but "easier" to me means "lazy". Nothing good comes from easy. But, yes, in reality, I can see how CEO types would be sold on the cloud. I just think its potentially misguided. BTW, IT infrastructure? You are all networked, right? So, whats left? One large ish server? Hardly my idea of "infrastructure", which to me implies something a bit more large and diverse. IMHO, being networked for the internet means you already have infrastructure, ish!!!

speeder 13y ago
Right now our office has two workstations, two desks, two chairs, a water filter (not cooler, only a filter, made of clay), paper, pens, two potted plants, and of course, all relevant cables. We don't even have a place to put a server... We already freak out enough fearing people will steal the workstations and test devices! (we are in Brazil, last year there was 20 mass robberies, 90 cops executed, several random murders, and 3 different incidents resulted into homeowners ending in hospital after being shot with military-grade rifles in common robberies)
bdunbar 13y ago
> Yeah, sure, until some numpty digs up your internet connection cable. My last employer was not into 'the cloud'. Just a smart manufacturing company, with sites in five countries, two data centers, one on each continent. Which would die in about a day without the internet. Each site could chug along for a while, but without the bits flowing in, and out, coordination gets out of whack and after about three workshifts they'd have no idea what to work on next. Cloud or not, if the internet goes so goes the business. That or they'd ask us to re-install those doggone fax servers we retired in 2007.
PeterisP 13y ago
What do you do if some numpty digs up the power cable to your HQ+server site? You can put the servers on generators, but in most companies users still couldn't use them as their office gear would be offline. In any case, if your servers are running but you can't connect to your suppliers and customers - you might as well turn them off, your business likely can't function without connectivity even if you avoid the cloud completely; so avoiding cloud doesn't decrease your risks much. Just buy two or more redundant, reasonably different internet channels - and then prolonged loss of connection is no more common as other major downtime risks such as flooding, fires, etc.