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I'm sorry man. I was a developer outside before I was a developer inside and I can relate to a lot of that. I'm not gonna say your complaints are invalid. All

I'm sorry man. I was a developer outside before I was a developer inside and I can relate to a lot of that. I'm not gonna say your complaints are invalid. All I'd ask is that you try not to take it personally. Our squeaky wheels have to get in the priority queue for grease like everybody else.

gtani 13y ago
I have no horses in this race, but I really respect that you're willing to take Q&A and say "Yes, there are issues" (Also Herb Sutter and the 2 other MS people in /r/cpp) http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h9uq7/c1114_stl_features_fixes_and_breaking_changes_in/ http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h9uq7/c1114_stl_featur...
- marshray 13y ago
  Thanks. TBH I'm not in any super-special position to "take Q&A", the stuff I work on is downstream from Windows much like everyone else. I'm just a dev who likes to talk about work on HN. That said, I'm taking notes so I can give an earful to someone who deserves it the next time I run into them in the elevator. :-) And yeah, Sutter and the language folks are pretty great.
rbanffy 13y ago
It's great to see there are Microsoft developers who care and who try to reach out. I've abandoned Microsoft platforms a long time ago, but several dear friends of mine work there. We started playing jokes calling each other (me with free and open-source and them with Microsoft-centric stuff) the "dark side of the force" but we settled down on "the other side of the force".
- marshray 13y ago
  There have been times in the past where our family PCs were Linux-only. When I got here I started talking to someone in our building kitchen and she was like "Oh yeah I work on the second floor which is the open source compatibility lab where we make sure Linux runs well on Azure." Most folks I've met are really nice and hard working, but a couple of times I've been in meetings and thought to myself "I bet I'm the only person in the room here who's ever actually worked in an office supply store." :-)

gtani 13y ago

I have no horses in this race, but I really respect that you're willing to take Q&A and say "Yes, there are issues" (Also Herb Sutter and the 2 other MS people in /r/cpp) http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h9uq7/c1114_stl_features_fixes_and_breaking_changes_in/ http://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/1h9uq7/c1114_stl_featur...

marshray 13y ago
Thanks. TBH I'm not in any super-special position to "take Q&A", the stuff I work on is downstream from Windows much like everyone else. I'm just a dev who likes to talk about work on HN. That said, I'm taking notes so I can give an earful to someone who deserves it the next time I run into them in the elevator. :-) And yeah, Sutter and the language folks are pretty great.

rbanffy 13y ago

It's great to see there are Microsoft developers who care and who try to reach out. I've abandoned Microsoft platforms a long time ago, but several dear friends of mine work there. We started playing jokes calling each other (me with free and open-source and them with Microsoft-centric stuff) the "dark side of the force" but we settled down on "the other side of the force".

marshray 13y ago
There have been times in the past where our family PCs were Linux-only. When I got here I started talking to someone in our building kitchen and she was like "Oh yeah I work on the second floor which is the open source compatibility lab where we make sure Linux runs well on Azure." Most folks I've met are really nice and hard working, but a couple of times I've been in meetings and thought to myself "I bet I'm the only person in the room here who's ever actually worked in an office supply store." :-)