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Sorry, but I'm not finding a link to those playbooks anywhere in the Ansible docs. The only cross-platform example I could find in the examples was the riak one

Sorry, but I'm not finding a link to those playbooks anywhere in the Ansible docs. The only cross-platform example I could find in the examples was the riak one [1]. Based on that example and the modules you mentioned, I'm guessing that the only real mechanism for multi-OS playbooks are separate sets of YAML files for each OS? If so, that's not exactly a great abstraction, though I'll agree it is workable. Still seems to be leaving Windows out in the cold altogether, as well, which is a show-stopper for my mixed environments. [1] https://github.com/ansible/ansible-examples/tree/master/riak https://github.com/ansible/ansible-examples/tree/master/riak

mpdehaan2 13y ago
Edited my response above a bit. We're going to be adding Windows support this year but have been concentrating on *nix operating systems as that's the core of our user base. Definitely would like feedback on what specifically on Windows you are managing and for what use cases.
- karlmdavis 13y ago
  Well, I've got two main use cases for configuration management tools: 1) managing CI build farms, and 2) managing my home network. Both of those environments are mixed-OS. The build farms are composed of a Jenkins master with multiple slaves of various OSes: Ubuntu, RHEL, and Windows. My home network is running Kerberos and OpenAFS (amongst many other random things [1]) on Ubuntu and Windows. > We don't believe in hiding too many OS details from you -- for instance, not only do package names vary between distributions but think about how Apache is managed so very differently between Ubuntu and CentOS -- in fact, we've observed in many cases that trying to pave over those things can make content a lot harder to work on. I don't know... the Puppet module for Apache [2] seems to do a reasonably good job of managing this. Admittedly, pretty much none of the "main" Puppet modules support Windows, but the underlying resource system absolutely does, so adding that support is just a matter of submitting pull requests to the modules. [1] Everything's documented here: https://justdavis.com/karl/it/ https://justdavis.com/karl/it/ [2] https://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/apache https://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/apache
  - mpdehaan2 13y ago
    Yeah that's in a module. This would be akin to a role in Ansible. If you are looking at the core language for either, it doesn't hide those things but you can put whatever logic you want in the role/playbook/manifest/etc. Hope this explains things! Thanks for more info.

mpdehaan2 13y ago

Edited my response above a bit. We're going to be adding Windows support this year but have been concentrating on *nix operating systems as that's the core of our user base. Definitely would like feedback on what specifically on Windows you are managing and for what use cases.

karlmdavis 13y ago
Well, I've got two main use cases for configuration management tools: 1) managing CI build farms, and 2) managing my home network. Both of those environments are mixed-OS. The build farms are composed of a Jenkins master with multiple slaves of various OSes: Ubuntu, RHEL, and Windows. My home network is running Kerberos and OpenAFS (amongst many other random things [1]) on Ubuntu and Windows. > We don't believe in hiding too many OS details from you -- for instance, not only do package names vary between distributions but think about how Apache is managed so very differently between Ubuntu and CentOS -- in fact, we've observed in many cases that trying to pave over those things can make content a lot harder to work on. I don't know... the Puppet module for Apache [2] seems to do a reasonably good job of managing this. Admittedly, pretty much none of the "main" Puppet modules support Windows, but the underlying resource system absolutely does, so adding that support is just a matter of submitting pull requests to the modules. [1] Everything's documented here: https://justdavis.com/karl/it/ https://justdavis.com/karl/it/ [2] https://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/apache https://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/apache
- mpdehaan2 13y ago
  Yeah that's in a module. This would be akin to a role in Ansible. If you are looking at the core language for either, it doesn't hide those things but you can put whatever logic you want in the role/playbook/manifest/etc. Hope this explains things! Thanks for more info.