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On average don't back-end developers get paid more than front-end developers? It's an interesting trend if 4x of programmers prefer backend development, then yo

On average don't back-end developers get paid more than front-end developers? It's an interesting trend if 4x of programmers prefer backend development, then you'd expect there's a shortage of front-end developers, and if so why doesn't their shortage drive the prices up? Probably completely broken logic there, but my observation is that front-enders tend to be a minority on teams, and yet so much work is (looking to) shift on to the front end. It's going to be an interesting space to watch.

jacques_chester 13y ago
I think it depends on the application. There's an enormous amount of work that can be satisfactorily done with plain old transactional CRUD. I don't think that most business users want to pay extra for interactivity in an inventory management system.
- ryan-allen 13y ago
  > I don't think that most business users want to pay extra for interactivity in an inventory management system. That is true, and if a backend programmer gets their hands on Bootstrap people probably aren't even going to notice. Maybe the high-end front-end programmers are actually a kind of specialist role.
  - jacques_chester 13y ago
    A really good front end person is valuable in cases where the interface is the distinguishing feature of the application. Consider how amazing Gmail and Google Maps were. Not so much because of the headline feature (read email! look up maps!) as their remarkable interfaces. But for lots of stuff it's not a requirement. Do I need mousewheel-zoom support for an accounts payable report?
    - true_religion 13y ago
      I remember GMail being oft talked about due to: - The huge amount of storage space they provided - No folders, only search - No spam Those are backend processes. I might be misremembering, but what how was the google interface significantly better or different than traditional webmail?
      - jacques_chester 13y ago
        Gmail was also talked about because of the invitational format. In terms of the application, Gmail made smooth, interactive interfaces the standard. Up until then web mail was about clicking between pages. Or, in the fanciest cases, using IFRAMEs.

jacques_chester 13y ago

I think it depends on the application. There's an enormous amount of work that can be satisfactorily done with plain old transactional CRUD. I don't think that most business users want to pay extra for interactivity in an inventory management system.

ryan-allen 13y ago
> I don't think that most business users want to pay extra for interactivity in an inventory management system. That is true, and if a backend programmer gets their hands on Bootstrap people probably aren't even going to notice. Maybe the high-end front-end programmers are actually a kind of specialist role.
- jacques_chester 13y ago
  A really good front end person is valuable in cases where the interface is the distinguishing feature of the application. Consider how amazing Gmail and Google Maps were. Not so much because of the headline feature (read email! look up maps!) as their remarkable interfaces. But for lots of stuff it's not a requirement. Do I need mousewheel-zoom support for an accounts payable report?
  - true_religion 13y ago
    I remember GMail being oft talked about due to: - The huge amount of storage space they provided - No folders, only search - No spam Those are backend processes. I might be misremembering, but what how was the google interface significantly better or different than traditional webmail?
    - jacques_chester 13y ago
      Gmail was also talked about because of the invitational format. In terms of the application, Gmail made smooth, interactive interfaces the standard. Up until then web mail was about clicking between pages. Or, in the fanciest cases, using IFRAMEs.