5 ms·

In other words, web content is moving away from a disjunctive relationship (this page, or that page, or...) to a conjunctive one (this card, and that card, and.

In other words, web content is moving away from a disjunctive relationship (this page, or that page, or...) to a conjunctive one (this card, and that card, and...). One thing that worries me is that a conjunction is non-indexable (if you have an index then you turn it back into a disjunction). Ultimately, this means that the address bar (i.e. the thing that lets us index into the web) will become even less useful, and there won't be a canonical way of sharing content; just a bunch of varieties of “share this” buttons.

dreamfactory 13y ago
No reason cards couldn't have URIs (IMO they must have them). That doesn't stop pages aggregating them.
- noblethrasher 13y ago
  True, but those URIs probably won’t be easily accessible to end users. I am not against “cards” per se, but I am worried about what the “appification” of the Internet portends. The web put most of the intelligence in the nodes rather than the network (in contrast to, say, cable television). Apps are reversing that. Now if I want to share content, I can no longer easily do so without the network(s) knowing about it. Intelligent networks scare me. One more thing about disjunctions vs. conjunctions: the former is about random access whereas the latter is about sequential access. Sequentially accessed stuff is consumed by streaming. So I am afraid that what we are going to end up with are a bunch of domain names/apps that correspond to streams; or in other words, cable TV 2.0.
  - dreamfactory 13y ago
    Think I'm looking at this differently - as breaking down the granularity of a page. If you standardised on a card API it wouldn't quite be a web of things but takes you in that direction. Something like RSS/Atom but less general and oriented to individual items rather than lists, with a richer data model. That content is then available to pages and apps equally and could maybe help against the walled garden effect.
  - TheZenPsycho 13y ago
    Maybe I've missed something huge, but having a URL is a central part of- at the very least, twitter's cards. The scenario is, user posts a link to the New York Times on twitter (as they do), the new york times has some level of control over the automatically generated preview that appears next to that tweet on twitter.
deleted 13y ago
[deleted]
dalek_cannes 13y ago
Oh dear, sounds like frames again...
- est 13y ago
  Imaging one particular card with heavy multimedia that hogs your whole fucking browser... Next thing you know now there's CPU & memory meter for cards.

dreamfactory 13y ago

No reason cards couldn't have URIs (IMO they must have them). That doesn't stop pages aggregating them.

noblethrasher 13y ago
True, but those URIs probably won’t be easily accessible to end users. I am not against “cards” per se, but I am worried about what the “appification” of the Internet portends. The web put most of the intelligence in the nodes rather than the network (in contrast to, say, cable television). Apps are reversing that. Now if I want to share content, I can no longer easily do so without the network(s) knowing about it. Intelligent networks scare me. One more thing about disjunctions vs. conjunctions: the former is about random access whereas the latter is about sequential access. Sequentially accessed stuff is consumed by streaming. So I am afraid that what we are going to end up with are a bunch of domain names/apps that correspond to streams; or in other words, cable TV 2.0.
- dreamfactory 13y ago
  Think I'm looking at this differently - as breaking down the granularity of a page. If you standardised on a card API it wouldn't quite be a web of things but takes you in that direction. Something like RSS/Atom but less general and oriented to individual items rather than lists, with a richer data model. That content is then available to pages and apps equally and could maybe help against the walled garden effect.
- TheZenPsycho 13y ago
  Maybe I've missed something huge, but having a URL is a central part of- at the very least, twitter's cards. The scenario is, user posts a link to the New York Times on twitter (as they do), the new york times has some level of control over the automatically generated preview that appears next to that tweet on twitter.

deleted 13y ago

[deleted]

dalek_cannes 13y ago

Oh dear, sounds like frames again...

est 13y ago
Imaging one particular card with heavy multimedia that hogs your whole fucking browser... Next thing you know now there's CPU & memory meter for cards.