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Sorry but I really think everyone should collectively loosen up.
by rfnslyr 13y ago
Sorry but I really think everyone should collectively loosen up.
- estel 13y agoOr, just maybe, you should care about the sort of atmosphere and culture that this app contributes to just that bit more.
- jessedhillon 13y agoHear hear. For example, I always drop the n-word when I'm walking around. People should be more like me, I don't get offended by that kind of language, why should anyone else? Sometimes people do, and I'm like, "What? Why're you getting so offended? I'm not offended, why are you?" I'm kidding. I don't ask "why are you?" -- that doesn't matter LOL 8-) For some reason, black people get especially offended at this kind of stuff. No clue why. I mean, I don't get offended and that's literally the only thing that matters when considering whether something should or shouldn't be said. Not the audience, the venue or the event. Literally, only my own sensibilities matter. Everyone else should loosen up. Like me.
- rfnslyr 13y agoYes because tit is exactly like saying "nigger".
- jessedhillon 13y agoI'd love to hear what you think are the salient differences between getting up and presenting Titstare, and showing something fictitious like "N-watcher" Evidently your reaction if someone got up to present the latter would not be "LOL guys loosen up!" -- even though you are not someone at whom the humor/offense is targeted. Why the difference in attitude?
- clarkm 13y agoThe problem with that comparison is that I can easily imagine some spoof "Racial Profiler!" app being showcased as a joke. Perhaps an app that allows Atherton residents to report "suspicious" behavior. But I guess the larger lesson here is: do not try these things unless you're The Onion, SNL, or Key and Peele.
- alsothings 13y agoI mean, this http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/the-real-problem-with-a-service-called-ghetto-tracker/279403/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/the-re... was not comedy and it happend all of a few days ago.
- rfnslyr 13y agoNot going to bother continuing a conversation with someone who gets as offended by tits as they do the word "nigger".
- jessedhillon 13y agoSuch a noble stand! You're not stupid, you get the point no matter how obtuse you're pretending to be. You know that I'm not saying that "tits == N-word" and you know that such an equivalency is not central to or required for my example. You simply don't want to admit that the only explanation of your position is to say "well black people have a right to get offended by the N-word, but women aren't allowed to object to breasts being objectified."
- rfnslyr 13y agoThe prank wasn't brought to light with the intention of offending women. It's a play on an activity with men, we look at boobs. Not everything involving sex is made with the objective of targeting someone, it's just a joke. If you fail to see it as such, that's your problem.
- jessedhillon 13y agoRight on. I have some white friends who, when there aren't any black people around, call each other the n-word. They're not targeting any particular black person, so obviously the behavior is completely acceptable. It's a joke, you know, a play on actual racist behavior. If you fail to see it as such, that's your problem. The good thing about this position is that you lack such self-awareness that you would never know the extent to which your limited perceptual abilities cripple you. The bad thing is that you likely do understand the objections here, and are therefore a keyboard jockey. Accordingly, you would never have the courage to make such a ludicrous stand in a public, mixed audience, thereby giving others a fair, advance bozo alert.
- rfnslyr 13y agoHahaha wow whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better.
- metaphorm 13y agoI bet you go from 0 to Hitler in under 6 seconds.
- jessedhillon 13y agoCentral to your comment is that you are comparing my post to a Hitler/holocaust argument. Ironically then, you have invoked Godwin's Law.
- metaphorm 13y agono, I'm saying you are the sort of person who thoroughly enjoys self-righteousness and making baseless accusations about (your perception of) the beliefs of others.
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- rhizome 13y agoWell, aren't we edgy.
- e40 13y agoYour reply would be entire spot on if the word "tit" and the n-word were equivalent. One is a body part that both men and women share. The other is a racially charged word that has more than a century of really bad history behind it. And, see how both you and I couldn't say the n-word? That's a tip off that it's not the same. I have tits. Yes, they are man-tits but they are tits nonetheless. The n-word, however, isn't something I'll be caught saying except in very specific company (explaining the history to my 12 yr old, for example). I can't say I agree with the GP post, since I didn't see the presentations being discussed, but I know your comment is off base.
- jessedhillon 13y agoThe point is not "N-word == Tits" The point is that, you, the reader, obviously understand that a word, concept or type of behavior can offend others and would therefore abstain from employing it. Or at least exercise judgment in doing so, because you understand that you have a measure of responsibility when speaking publicly. The inanity of GP's comments is staggering. He is literally saying that because he, himself, is not offended by such humor that everyone else should similarly relax their sensibilities. If you understand that some language and behavior can offend others, even if you personally are not offended by it, then you already get the point of my argument. If you fixate on disproving the (not-claimed) equivalency between racial slurs and an app about breast obsession -- then you have missed the point.
- rfnslyr 13y agoThe point is that, you, the reader, obviously understand that a word, concept or type of behavior can offend others and would therefore abstain from employing it. What this really means is that it's not you who should take responsibility for your emotions, it's everyone else that should watch out for you. What exactly did you get offended by? If you claim that prank was sexist in any way, you clearly lack the ability to judge a situation and its context.
- jessedhillon 13y agoTotally agree dude. That's my stand when I drop racial slurs ("slurs" am I right?) It's not my job to know which words are going to upset another person's emotional state! I'm not a mind reader! My responsibility is only to say what I want. Seriously though -- it's absolutely-fucking-hilarious that you think I'm the one lacking situational awareness. The guys who got up and made boob jokes? Total awareness, perhaps even masters of humor. People who are offended, or can see why it would be particularly offensive to some women -- no awareness. Amazing.
- cpayne 13y agoIt really depends on how you view the event. If it is just a bunch of blokes hanging out, I can see (but do not agree!) with your point of view. If you see it is as even a semi professional event, then I do know how you could justify it.
- roguecoder 13y agoIf professional events are "just a bunch of blokes hanging out", that's a pretty good example of how an industry could be systematically sexist.
- blindhippo 13y agoIt's an app to take and share pictures of a part of the female body. It's socially reinforced sexual objectification. Perhaps you should go loosen up your knowledge and find out exactly WHY this is offensive before dropping another ignorant comment.